john111/LZ
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Waters is a genius and Gilmour is a great guitarist.
Pink Floyd - Who's your favorite: Gilmour or Waters
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Kodaline
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Here's the thing, the Floyd had three sounds, the original, the evolved one they got to about Atom Heart Mother or so, and the third one after the Final Cut when Waters left. Superb band across all three, however, the "Pink Floyd Sound" (one of the earlier names of the band as well), was the second, evolved one. That sound needed both Waters' singing and Gilmour's guitar. Yes, Waters played bass, and Gilmour did sing, but Waters's vocals are iconic and so are Gilmour's guitar solos.
I need them both. I do like the later work of the Floyd, and I do like Waters' later work, too, but, to me, the band became something else after the Final Cut, which is really The Wall, LP 3.
The world thinks the best album is Dark Side of The Moon. I think it's Wish You Were Here. My favorite is The Wall, however. Using Comfortably Numb as an example, there are important verses sung by each singer, and two great Gilmour solos. The end solo to the song may be one of the best solos ever, the guitar screams that we're going to crash and burn and lose it all; might as well do it with style and spectacle as it tears off like a muscle car leaving a late night bad situation at the end. That song needed both men, equally so. I attended the 30th Anniversary Wall tour, and my ONLY complaint was that the singer/guitarist doing Gilmour's role was not him. Apparently the man himself did do that song at Earl's Court at one concert, which, maybe, means they share this opinion as well.
I need them both. I do like the later work of the Floyd, and I do like Waters' later work, too, but, to me, the band became something else after the Final Cut, which is really The Wall, LP 3.
The world thinks the best album is Dark Side of The Moon. I think it's Wish You Were Here. My favorite is The Wall, however. Using Comfortably Numb as an example, there are important verses sung by each singer, and two great Gilmour solos. The end solo to the song may be one of the best solos ever, the guitar screams that we're going to crash and burn and lose it all; might as well do it with style and spectacle as it tears off like a muscle car leaving a late night bad situation at the end. That song needed both men, equally so. I attended the 30th Anniversary Wall tour, and my ONLY complaint was that the singer/guitarist doing Gilmour's role was not him. Apparently the man himself did do that song at Earl's Court at one concert, which, maybe, means they share this opinion as well.
But David is such a nice fellow...
Late Boomer
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The Wall is one of the few albums by any artist I can listen to completely from start to finish. It is cinematic. It is one, not a collection of tracks. Generally I don't care for albums and prefer tracks a la carte. My wife prefers Atom Heart Mother, but likes WYWH too.
MaxxVolume
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I`ve always had a special fondness for "Meddle". IMHO, it perfectly captures the feelings of the very early `70s. To wit:
Summer of `72, we were doing an overnighter at a friend`s 130 acre farm up in Northwest NJ. Somebody had brought a handful of Orange Sunshine, and we were all pretty well plugged in. Five guys in my `66 Grand Prix, cruising the back roads at 20 mph with the windows down, blasting "Meddle", and smelling the honeysuckle that was in full bloom. It was perfect....
(I sure miss that car)
Summer of `72, we were doing an overnighter at a friend`s 130 acre farm up in Northwest NJ. Somebody had brought a handful of Orange Sunshine, and we were all pretty well plugged in. Five guys in my `66 Grand Prix, cruising the back roads at 20 mph with the windows down, blasting "Meddle", and smelling the honeysuckle that was in full bloom. It was perfect....
(I sure miss that car)
Probably because Alan Parsons played such magic with the SQ on DSOTM that was way ahead of its time in 72-73 when it was recorded, and because it took PF from a psychedelic band status to major league prog which was definitely a-tune with the mid-70's already, at a time when psychedelic was dying out. Other bands like King Crimson followed a similar path but in a less spectacular fashion.
Raven50
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I can understand debating between the two if you strictly base it on artistic talent, but it shouldn't even be a debate amongst what I will refer to as, decent human beings if you are talking about who is the better man.
Gilmour is a decent human being. The story goes that a fan who approached him while having a pint in a pub as said he was better than Clapton. Gilmour answered back with, "Think of all Eric has been through". When he is not working he is a family man and just lives his life.
Waters is a commie pompous ass who spreads conspiracy theories and disinformation, as well as an anti-Semite. He is the one who screwed up PF with his ego and crazy demands. He didn't leave the band and "they" didn't "split up". He fired someone he shouldn't have fired, and everyone else basically said screw you, you're the one who is fired.
So ya....not very debate able imho. Lol
Gilmour is a decent human being. The story goes that a fan who approached him while having a pint in a pub as said he was better than Clapton. Gilmour answered back with, "Think of all Eric has been through". When he is not working he is a family man and just lives his life.
Waters is a commie pompous ass who spreads conspiracy theories and disinformation, as well as an anti-Semite. He is the one who screwed up PF with his ego and crazy demands. He didn't leave the band and "they" didn't "split up". He fired someone he shouldn't have fired, and everyone else basically said screw you, you're the one who is fired.
So ya....not very debate able imho. Lol
ToyDoctor
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Teen Beat would ask David Cassidy or Bobby Sherman.
ToyDoctor
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The question is still out there regarding which one is the "pinko" of Pink Floyd. Roger wants peace, what say you?
Pioneer.user
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I used to admire Waters, but since he became russian, communists propagandist i lost all admire for him
Comfortable numb is gilmours composition. So its not only his voice and solos
Comfortable numb is gilmours composition. So its not only his voice and solos
PioneerFreq
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I like waters for nostalgia. I like Gilmore for the sound.
If I had to choose I would choose Gilmore.
If I had to choose I would choose Gilmore.
PioneerFreq
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Parsons from 1977-1984ish was literally Pink Floyd reborn IMHO. I have a lot of APP and it seems to get better the more I listen.
Indeed, Parsons is the guy who gave the band such a sound signature that most people recall when they think of Pink Floyd. Not that they were bad in the late 60's but acid rock had less mass appeal already around 1970 while prog was heading for glory in the following decade. It was a gamble, and it paid off big time. Parsons being a talented musician himself certainly was a factor.
PioneerFreq
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See Emily Play era was just a lazy Beatles copy and Syd was just following Morrison into the desert on LSD.
Yea I said it.
Side note* Bono in 87 and then Robert Plant in 93 just kept repeating the recipe. But the copy got worse each time it was forced. They even named their albums Joshua Tree and 29 Palms respectively. (29 palms is like the ghetto Joshua Tree
both just a stones throw from me).
Ya I said that too.
Yea I said it.
Side note* Bono in 87 and then Robert Plant in 93 just kept repeating the recipe. But the copy got worse each time it was forced. They even named their albums Joshua Tree and 29 Palms respectively. (29 palms is like the ghetto Joshua Tree
both just a stones throw from me).Ya I said that too.
