Prices.... Going Up!!!

[quaddriver]

Oh... ordered to produce the false one... all the time. And the son was charged...?... not really a question, but a statement. Bird shot, not serious, like using rock salt for melon thieves. 000 is what you want. One does not answer return fire from criminal insurgences with bird shot, what type weapon did the criminal possess? Moving on a house is criminal. Most likely the criminal will be released with charges dropped while the son will be prosecuted, it follows the theme.

well they say a handgun was recovered from blm, acutally a couple. could be a revolver, could be a 9...the son was charged with some F2 crime but the DA was forced to apply the charge to avoid a riot. once all the video is released, the order of events is clear. similar to the one in kenosha with that kid - note how that dropped off the radar.

 

[spicer]

I got a few hundred of these for my semi-auto shotgun, but I think they are overkill:
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Uhh... yes, well... maybe... it all depends.

 

[GChief]

Bird shot, not serious, like using rock salt for melon thieves. 000 is what you want.

Agreed for long distance outside. Most defensive deadly force encounters at home happen within 6ft. At those distances #8 is devastating, will not over penetrate and only go thru about 3 sheets of dry wall. There are studies

Edit: my first 3 are #8 then a couple # 4 buck.

 

[spicer]

Agreed for long distance outside. Most defensive deadly force encounters at home happen with 6ft. At those distances #8 is devastating, will not over penetrate and only go thru about 3 sheets of dry wall. There are studies

Edit: my first 3 are #8 then a couple # 4 buck.

Of course, inside, safer for everything except the intended target. Moving on a house inferred outside and that was my reference, plus return fire... depending, even 25 ft is long distance for bird shot. For discussion, in a populated area slugs have serious penetration even compared to 000... when it matters, and it always matters, I tend to alternate 00 with slugs. God forbid the necessity... that's a prayer.

 

[GChief]

God forbid the necessity... that's a prayer.

Yep, agreed.
I have the #1 home defense. Nasty sounding barking dogs. Back when I had 2 Great Danes and 2 Chesapeake Bay retrievers we rarely locked the doors.

Edit: I won’t get home from the airport until around 1:30am. The boy dog will be trying to eat me as I come in the door (his normal when I have been gone and get home late) then it will be instant happy tail.

 

[Alobar]

Of course, inside, safer for everything except the intended target. Moving on a house inferred outside and that was my reference, plus return fire... depending, even 25 ft is long distance for bird shot. For discussion, in a populated area slugs have serious penetration even compared to 000... when it matters, and it always matters, I tend to alternate 00 with slugs. God forbid the necessity... that's a prayer.

What the...? you all talking about people defense here, or bears?

 

[Dingman]

What the...? you all talking about people defense here, or bears?

Good question. I also skipped many pages to this page and, WTF?
But I've had posts moved because I was EDIT off topic, so it's all good.
And LOL, what does it mean if I've never ever invested time and $$, or learned about all these #8 6ft rules. Why haven't I needed to know about these things?
(I'm off topic, I expect my post to go away).

 

[Alobar]

But I've had posts moved because I was slightly off topic, so it's all good.

This is one of those "shoot the bull" threads, not an audio reference thread, so the rules naturally loosen as to subject matter. But as a side note, as the economy worsens, having a way to defend yourself from a largely screwed population, the subject can be linked, at least loosely..

And LOL, what does it mean if I've never ever invested time and $$, or learned about all these #8 6ft rules. Why haven't I needed to know about these things?

Live in a better neighborhood perhaps?

 

[Dingman]

This is one of those "shoot the bull" threads, not an audio reference thread, so the rules naturally loosen as to subject matter.

I didn't know, sounds good to me.

Live in a better neighborhood perhaps?

I have to admit, I haven't lived in but about a half dozen neighborhoods in 60 yrs. Most of that, here in Iowa.
But I think you misunderstood - maybe I would have learned of those things if I had lived in worse neighborhoods (but it also occurs to me that maybe you're being sarcastic and I missed it?).
LOL I feel so lost in this thread.

 

[spicer]

What the...? you all talking about people defense here, or bears?

Bears and such... certainly. But the other... depends. These are things recessed in thought but ready to go front and center.... like when you're driving a two lane enjoying everything then something suddenly appears going the opposite direction on the wrong side... ya gotta deal with it, what you do is situation dependent, hopefully not to over, or under react... holds for bears too.

 

[SoCal Sam]

Money supply expansion usually leads to price increase...that is the historical record. The hope of the people doing the expanding is for a free lunch but that is almost never the case. Expanding the money supply does not increase economic productive capacity. So, prices for basic commodities doubling is not surprising. Gas has already gone up significantly since Jan. 20 this year.

 

[grillebilly]

Colonial Pipeline announced they are firing things back up as I write this.

 

[SoCal Sam]

Colonial Pipeline announced they are firing things back up as I write this.

Keystone XL is on the shelf so supply will not expand. Prices stay high. In economics that is called in-elasticity. Prices skyrocket but demand responds slowly or not at all. People have to drive and live.

 

[OBMG74]

Gas Prices.
Multiple Choice, choose one or more:

1. Switching from Winter to Summer blend.
2. Switching from Summer to Winter blend.
3. Bad weather in (fill in the blank)- Refinery offline.
4. Mideast decreasing production
5. Mideast increasing production
6. Holiday coming up, anticipated increased consumption.
7. People travelling more.
8. People travelling less.
9. Delivery problems
10. --------------------------------------------In your own words, make up a story. Do NOT use the Wizard of OZ behind the curtain pulling levers.

11. Computer hack

 

[kryten79]

lol, does OBMG74's #9, delivery problems include closing additional distribution pipelines? Gov. of WI is grandstanding about closing another one running thru the state.

 

[NH-MAN]

I watched a video recently where it was stated that the square body Chevy and GMC Suburbans are the next "Jeep Wagoneer" as far as prices go. Expect the see $30k to $50k asking prices for good examples.

That would be Scouts, last few years they have tripled in price. I could have my 1of 2 made CVI Classic “tunes” edition sold easily within half an hour at 45K

 

[Mystic]

Do you have the secret handshake to get yourself into Davos?

I'd sooner cut off their hands...

 

[Mystic]

What the...? you all talking about people defense here, or bears?

Whichever comes into the sights, I reckon.

 

[Alobar]

I'd sooner cut off their hands...

If only that would help

 

[Mystic]

That would be Scouts, last few years they have tripled in price. I could have my 1of 2 made CVI Classic “tunes” edition sold easily within half an hour at 45K

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Beautiful vehicle. Love the color ... almost OG 107 .... just a tad a bit on the shiny side.