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I remember hearing about an oil filter that uses a roll of toilet paper back in the 70s. I think it is still available, but never really took off. I am not sure how well it works, but some people swear by it. Seems like it would be cheaper than buying a new filter each time.
usedto
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Frantz
Problem was no quality control in various toilet papers. Engine rebuilders reported finding paper fibers in engines.
That some people would not instantly recognize this as a bad idea just proves that stupidity is not a modern invention.
One page article on the history of the oil filter... synopsis: invented in 1923 named Purolator, it was seven cotton twill covered perforated metal plates in a canister, that filtered only 10% of oil at a time. 1943- first paper/cellulose filter drop in canisters that filtered 100% of the oil, but nobody was building cars until after WWI ended, so they were not really available until 1946 . In 1954 Wix invented the spin on filter... not much change since then other than the type of filter media.
DesertRatt
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I remember it well. Usually, an extension hose was fitted from the original location of the oil filter up to the fender where the TP holder was installed for easy access. I saw actual cars with this installed. My guess would be....that it interfered with oil pressure requirements for some or many cars.
I always assumed it was just an urban myth. But it turns out it is real: toiletpaperoilfilter.com It is a bypass setup where only some of the oil goes through this filter.
DesertRatt
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"Daddy, How Does the World Work?"
No one knows! It is inexplicable. You just wake up each day and look around--that's what it is today.
No one knows! It is inexplicable. You just wake up each day and look around--that's what it is today.
I remember some years ago, hearing about the water canister. Electrodes from both sides of the battery are inserted into a canister of water to separate the hydrogen and oxygen. The hydrogen is fed to the engine. The claim is that this will cause all of the gasoline to be used/burned instead of only 20%. Theoretically, this should result in 5 times the fuel economy. So even if your car only gets 20 mph as is, it should get 100 mph with the canister. I had reservations, so I did some research. Gasoline burns at approximately 400° F. Hydrogen burns at 1100° F, at least according to the articles I read. So, immediately it occurred to me that the gasoline engine probably can't handle 1100° F. Sure enough, this was ruining engines and if one of these canisters was under the hood of your car, the dealer would void your warranty. Quite a few people added a canister to their cars without stopping to think and check it out first. So, you're right Wayne! Stupidly is nothing new. If I was planning to market such a product, I would test it on at least 5 vehicles I didn't care about for at least 2 years first. Only if all of the vehicles came through the test unharmed would I market the product.
I wonder how many people thought the automobile wouldn’t really make it when it was invented. There have been times when I was stopped in bumper to bumper traffic on an eight lane each direction freeway. I have pondered what someone like Henry Ford would think if he could come back to life for a day and see how many cars there are and how far they have advanced.
TwoCat
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Maybe this is urban legend, but I heard that a TP filter DOES work. The problem is, it takes a lot of time, which in an engine depending upon constant and significant amount of oil flow for both lubrication and cooling, slow flow is bad, making the application unacceptable.
On the other hand, if you were to do a clean capture of the drained used oil, and passed it through a multi-staged TP filter, the oil would emerge as clean as it was when fresh. The other problem was with the worn out additives -which are trade secret and not available.
I recall seeing some time ago, refurbished motor oil for sale but that was back in the days of metal canned motor oil.
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On the other hand, if you were to do a clean capture of the drained used oil, and passed it through a multi-staged TP filter, the oil would emerge as clean as it was when fresh. The other problem was with the worn out additives -which are trade secret and not available.
I recall seeing some time ago, refurbished motor oil for sale but that was back in the days of metal canned motor oil.
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From the very little bit of reading I did, it looks like only a little oil at a time goes through the TP filter. This keeps the pressure up and allows it to clean over time.
You can't use Charmin, you have to use that industrial strength sandpaper type found in public restroom... There was a guy that owned the NAPA store in town and he used those rolls in the canister filter in his 1946 Buick
DesertRatt
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I paid $143 last week for an oil change on the Yukon. 8 qts of syn 5-30. Seemed like a lot. No extras.
8 quarts of full syn 5W-30 isn't cheap. Throw in labor and it doesn't seem unreasonable.
I buy my Pennzoil Platinum Pure+ (or Mobile One) 5W-20 at Wally World for $24 for a 5 quart jug and change it myself. This oil costs $34 at O'Reillys and AutoZone
ConradH
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I can't believe the hydrogen generator did anything significant, good or bad. The volumetric energy density of hydrogen is terrible, meaning it takes a crapload of it to heat anything up. Or move a vehicle. Which is why they use 5000 and 10,000 psi tanks for hydrogen powered vehicles. My favorite hydrogen writeup- Don Lancaster's Guru's Lair Hydrogen Resources Page (scroll down a bit)
Ok I am not trying to stir up anything here, and I hope it doesn’t. I have heard some different opinions on these. Some saying conspiracy theories. Is there someone on this site that could explain these to me. I took these pictures 5 days apart. I don’t understand why these planes or jets would be traveling in these types of patterns lately. What causes these trails? Is it the air temperature? Is it the type of fuel? I sincerely don’t know. I have not seen these in a long time, but now they have been frequent. I am sure there is someone on here that is in aviation that probably knows. Thanks. 
DesertRatt
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In the last year or so a few companies have publicly shared their cloud seeding programs. I think this subject has moved from conspiracy to reality.
I'm no expert on it, but I think if you dig a little, you can come up with the recent admissions.
Apparently, if you own an airplane you can squirt stuff into the air without explicit permissions.
I'm no expert on it, but I think if you dig a little, you can come up with the recent admissions.
Apparently, if you own an airplane you can squirt stuff into the air without explicit permissions.
Contrails are caused by the hot dirty exhaust of engines in the cold upper atomsphere... the water vapor in the atmosphere needs something to condense onto ("Condensation Nuclei") to form clouds. Depending on how much water vapor is in the air and how dirty the exhaust is these things can last for hours and spread over hundreds of miles, or they may last less than a minute. We studied these in the Air Force for 5 years to figure out what altitudes to fly at to prevent their development and thus give away that we were coming for you !
Cloud seeding is done with silver iodine or potassium iodine and cannot really make clouds out of thin air- it is generally done when there are already clouds thick enough to produce precipitation and it helps increase the amount of precipitation.
There is no conspiracy here at all, just nonsense spewed by folks who have no understanding of science and have way too much time on their hands
Cloud seeding is done with silver iodine or potassium iodine and cannot really make clouds out of thin air- it is generally done when there are already clouds thick enough to produce precipitation and it helps increase the amount of precipitation.
There is no conspiracy here at all, just nonsense spewed by folks who have no understanding of science and have way too much time on their hands
