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Rega Owner's Thread

I too am digging my new Planar 3, after 25 hours of use the Exact cartridge sounds fantastic, especially now that the table is dead level with the new TangoSpinner adjustable feet.

(I didn't get the P6 because I am unsure of the durability of the foam plinth.)
 
Its one of those things where only time will tell, I am using an RB 250 that has been stripped and polished and rewired with Litz silver wire and good quality RCA cable and plugs, it has been foam-filled and sounds out of this world, I have compared it to some very high-level arms and it has not been beaten yet.
 
I've read through every single one of the threads on the audio forums about the P6 "sagging" issue. Most of the posts in those threads are from posters who don't own a Rega and pile on because they can. No foul there as we're all free to comment on discussion threads, but the volume of posts obfuscates the fact that there are very few actual owners who have had any issues with the P6 plinths. There clearly is/was an anomaly in some small number of these plinths, I don't doubt that, but it appears the number is very small.

Tancast is a material long used in aerospace applications and from what I've read Tancast 8 is light, strong and stable over time. Its use in turntable plinths was novel but this is a tried and true, well known material. I believe that Rega conducted much testing to validate the material, the composite matrix and arrive at reliable fabrication techniques before deciding to trust every P6, P8 and P10 to it. Think about that: every upper-end turntable they make relies on this material and these techniques. It would ruin Rega if it turned out to not be up to task.

In one of the threads about these plinths on PinkFish, a Rega representative noted an official tolerance for the plinths and later was noted that Rega has replaced plinths that don't meet that tolerance. I believe that. Considering their long history of supporting their machines, I'm more than happy to trust that I'll be happy with the P6 long term. They have a far better track record of remaining in business and supporting all of their old models than most. You can still buy parts for their original machines made in 1973, other than one tonearm made by an outside vendor that is long out of business now. I believe they'll support my P6 long term as well.

Lastly, touching on a point made above, every Rega owner had better hope that Tancast 8 deployment in Rega plinths works out well because if it doesn't there likely will be no Rega to get parts from for your turntable years from now.
 
I too am digging my new Planar 3, after 25 hours of use the Exact cartridge sounds fantastic, especially now that the table is dead level with the new TangoSpinner adjustable feet.

(I didn't get the P6 because I am unsure of the durability of the foam plinth.)

Between the TangoSpinner feet and Butcher Block platform/isolation springs, which of these two do you think provides the greater improvement?
 
It's interesting the question about butcher block, isolation, etc. I've read quite a few multi-page threads on the different forums about wall mounts, bamboo cutting boards, butcher block, sorbothane, plus many more ideas about whether Regas require additional isolation beyond the included Santoprene feet. It seems a cottage industry kinda thing that some believe the Rega machines require extensive additional siting or platforming to perform as intended.

One of the things I'm loving about this new Rega is that I've done absolutely nothing beyond leveling the non-adjustable Rega feet with little circles of black construction paper. There is no bamboo cutting board, no sorbothane, no heavy platform, no lightweight platform, I just placed it on the wood console that is the best place in the room for it.

IMO it has needed nothing by way of isolation or consideration of platform, beyond whatever is engineered into the turntable already. It is as quiet, as the stylus drops, as my Thorens machines. It is dynamic and musical and simple. I feel zero urge to change feet, or to add another platform underneath, or isolate with springs or elastomers, or anything.

I can certainly see wanting aftermarket feet for purposes of adjustability/leveling, but my little construction paper shims are cut so close to the feet themselves that I cannot see them from more than five feet away. Simple, functional, no muss, just beautiful music.
 
Between the TangoSpinner feet and Butcher Block platform/isolation springs, which of these two do you think provides the greater improvement?

Right now, neither ! Today I started having trouble with a lot of sibilance in the left channel, bad enough that my Steely Dan AJA LP was unplayable. I removed the acrylic mat and put on the cork-rubber one to no avail. I next tried my Mellencamp Lonesome Jubilee with both mats and there was no difference but it was better. I Put the Aja back on and it was better through the 1st half of the record, but then got worse as it got close to the end.

I reset the counterweight, reset the cartridge to 1.75 grams, reset the anti skate to 1.5. Still had the sibilance in the left channel. Tuner and CD player are perfect, so I don't know what is wrong with it, as yesterday it was perfect.
 
What cartridge is on it?


Between the TangoSpinner feet and Butcher Block platform/isolation springs, which of these two do you think provides the greater improvement?

Right now, neither ! Today I started having trouble with a lot of sibilance in the left channel, bad enough that my Steely Dan AJA LP was unplayable. I removed the acrylic mat and put on the cork-rubber one to no avail. I next tried my Mellencamp Lonesome Jubilee with both mats and there was no difference but it was better. I Put the Aja back on and it was better through the 1st half of the record, but then got worse as it got close to the end.

I reset the counterweight, reset the cartridge to 1.75 grams, reset the anti skate to 1.5. Still had the sibilance in the left channel. Tuner and CD player are perfect, so I don't know what is wrong with it, as yesterday it was perfect.
 
The stylus looks fine through my 2" round magnifying glass. It almost sounded like the stylus was only skimming the very top of the grooves, so It may be the the tonearm lifter is not going all the way down... I'm going to check on that tomorrow (wife is watching TV right now so I can't play until she goes to work tomorrow). I may also try different ant-skate settings
 
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Sure will...just really weird that it can be so good one day then crap the next...maybe I'll blame it on:
 

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FIXED! Turned out to be two things that were all my fault. I had to do some whacky adjustments to the feet to get the table level and ascertained that the Iso-Band feet on the maple platform were all different heights making the platform unlevel. I removed them and put on 9/16" tall rubber cone feet and the platform leveled right up. So now I had to readjust the TangoSpinner feet to get the table level again, but the nylon bushings the feet screw onto were spinning. I had to turn the table upside down so I could remove the bushings and put a little silicone sealer on them to hold them in position so they would not spin while I adjusted the feet.

Being upside down upset the damping fluid in the tonearm lift so that when I attempted to play a record the arm lift did not go all the way down, so the stylus was barely contacting the record. This morning the lifter was working as it should and the Steely Dan Aja album played fairly well but was still a little off.

Turned out that I had set the cartridge weight incorrectly and it was way too light (about 1.2 grams instead of 1.75). The pad on my Hudson HiFi digital scale sits 3mm above the surface you have it sitting on (approximately the same thickness as a slip mat and record), so you have to remove the slip mat and set the scale on the platter itself - well my tired old blind self set the scale on top of the 2mm thick acrylic mat and set the weight to to 1.75 grams. When I checked it this morning with the slip mat removed it was only reading 1.20 grams. I reset it to 1.75 grams and the anti skate to 1.5, and put on the B side of Aja. The sound was once again wonderous ! (except when I heard that ass hat Michael McDonald singing back ground vocals - I cannot forgive him for ruining the Doobie Brothers).

So, in short, ensure the tonearm lifter is going all the way down, and make sure you set the cartridge weight the correct way.
 
Between the TangoSpinner feet and Butcher Block platform/isolation springs, which of these two do you think provides the greater improvement?

Well, it has got to be the TangoSpinner feet making the table LEVEL since I had to remove the Iso-Band insulators and replace them with Butcher Block Acoustics 9/16" rubber cone feet just to get the platform level enough to make minimal adjustments to the TT feet.

https://butcherblockacoustics.com/c...s/copy-of-iso-feet-by-butcher-block-acoustics
 
Glad to hear you're sorted but there was something weird about your experience with the rb330 tonearm. When I balance the arm and then set VTF using the dial, setting dynamic VTF, it makes zero difference whether I measure the VTF with scale on the platter mat or on the glass platter. I'm amazed you arrived at more than half a gram difference by removing the mat.
 
Glad to hear you're sorted but there was something weird about your experience with the rb330 tonearm. When I balance the arm and then set VTF using the dial, setting dynamic VTF, it makes zero difference whether I measure the VTF with scale on the platter mat or on the glass platter. I'm amazed you arrived at more than half a gram difference by removing the mat.

I guess it depends on what kind/brand of digital scale you are using. The marks on the tonearm dial are not too far off: with the scale reading 1.75 the markings on the dial are about 1.65. The easy- peasy instructions that Rega provides are to use the counterweight to balance the arm then dial in 1.75 grams on the tonearm dial then slide the anti skate mechanism to the same. Since the markings on the dial are not too far off doing it the easy way only makes it a bit heavy but not by much. I dialed in 1.75 on the arm before weighing, which measured 1.88 on the digital scale--just had to back off a bit to get it right at 1.75 on the scale /1.65ish on the arm dial. (I noticed this morning as I was setting everything back to Zero that the dial was only at about 1.3, not 1.75)

When I use the scale on top of the acrylic matt it reads 1.98 grams (reads 1.75 on top of the glass platter), so it must just be the type of scale I have...anyway it works wondrously again !
 
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I will probably need to replace my Rega's belt in the near future, can some-one explain this "white belt" thing, is it the color that makes a difference or is it made of some magic substance....I'm being serious here, but i just don't get it.
One of my TTs has a twin pulley and two white belts, a very stable sound and the platter doesn't stop turning when you put the anti-stat cleaner on the record.
 
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