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Schiit Buf

My BUF arrived an hour ago... it is the smallest piece of Schiit I've ever seen (only 5" wide). I found out the BAD way not to turn it On or Off, or switch the gain while the amplifier is turned On... I was rewarded with extremely loud speaker pops. It didn't matter that the preamp volume was turned all the way down, the amp has to be OFF before you make any changes to the BUF.
The sound... it takes the digital edge off CD's, and makes FM radio a little "tubey". I haven't tried anything else, that's all that I have hooked up to the Parasound P6 preamp and Onkyo M-508 amp right now. A very nice little "Toy".
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With tube gear its source or sources on first, then tube preamp (volume all the way down), or buffer stage, then let the tubes warm up a minute or two, then turn your amp on either SS or tube. Shut down is in reverse order with the volume all the way down. Turning a tube preamp or buffer on after the amp is turned on is never a good idea. It usually does cause various unwanted noises, some very loud. :biggrin:
 
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I agree about Soviet era NOS equivalents of western tubes. The Reflector 6P14P-EV I use in my ST-35 are the best sounding power tubes
I’ve tried. They have a beefy, weighty and strong sound to them. Just excellent. I also use some Rocket logo NOS 6N1P and 6N3P in other gear and they sound great too. And you can’t beat the price!
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I use 6P14P-EV's in my ST-35 as well. They're actually the same as 7189.
Pretty much the same tube as a EL84, but can handle higher Voltages.
The 6P14P-EV's are ruggedised longer life versions. :thumbsup:
 
With tube gear its source or sources on first, then tube preamp (volume all the way down), or buffer stage, then let the tubes warm up a minute or two, then turn your amp on either SS or tube. Shut down is in reverse order with the volume all the way down. Turning a tube preamp or buffer on after the amp is turned on is never a good idea. It usually does cause various unwanted noises, some very loud. :biggrin:
I ordered one.

Schiit should definitely add that power-up sequence to the little manual, as I imagine many people ordering it will not know to turn on the amp last and off first when including this buffer into the chain...
 
I ordered one.

Schiit should definitely add that power-up sequence to the little manual, as I imagine many people ordering it will not know to turn on the amp last and off first when including this buffer into the chain...
I agree. If they're going to sell tube based equipment they should have that in there instructions. For a lot of people this is there first introduction to tubes since Schiit's tube gear is very affordable. You can get away with turning sources on after startup in most cases though. I've just made a habit of turning on the source I'm going to use first before the preamp, then amp.
I think I'll go ahead and get one of these buffers since the reviews have been pretty positive so far. It should work great for my garage system.
 
J English: Schiit should definitely add that power-up sequence to the little manual, as I imagine many people ordering it will not know to turn on the amp last and off first when including this buffer into the chain...


Manual ? (I didn't even look at it !) I generally do my amps "last on, first off" but I was in a hurry to test out the gain feature, so I flipped the switch and got a mini grenade sound ! The +12db gain switch really pumps up the volume !
 
I use 6P14P-EV's in my ST-35 as well. They're actually the same as 7189.
Pretty much the same tube as a EL84, but can handle higher Voltages.
The 6P14P-EV's are ruggedised longer life versions. :thumbsup:
I use them in my Glow Audio Amp Two, with 5751 drivers. I suspect we may be getting them from the same Ukranian vendor. They seem to have more sparkle up top and more bass control. I'd rotated them out in favor of the stock Shugang that came with the amp, since I was only using them for mid frequencies. When I rotated that amp into my mono setup, I was reminded how lousy those Shugang were, with rolled off bass and a thin and tinny sound overall.
 
J English: Schiit should definitely add that power-up sequence to the little manual, as I imagine many people ordering it will not know to turn on the amp last and off first when including this buffer into the chain...


Manual ? (I didn't even look at it !) I generally do my amps "last on, first off" but I was in a hurry to test out the gain feature, so I flipped the switch and got a mini grenade sound ! The +12db gain switch really pumps up the volume !
Ya, thats a lot of gain.
 
Mine just arrived- I put it into a system and it’s working fine. I’ll need some time to evaluate it.

I am already curious about using an adapter to try a 6SN7 tube, but it doesn’t look like there’s a lot of room for an adapter that’s much wider than the original tube. Has anybody used one successfully? If so, which adapter?

Thanks.
 
Mine just arrived- I put it into a system and it’s working fine. I’ll need some time to evaluate it.

I am already curious about using an adapter to try a 6SN7 tube, but it doesn’t look like there’s a lot of room for an adapter that’s much wider than the original tube. Has anybody used one successfully? If so, which adapter?

Thanks.
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I know some of you guys are going to use an adapter to accomodate a 6SN7, so have at it and please report your findings. Even if I wanted to I couldn’t because there is not enough clearance in my rack.
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With tube gear its source or sources on first, then tube preamp (volume all the way down), or buffer stage, then let the tubes warm up a minute or two, then turn your amp on either SS or tube. Shut down is in reverse order with the volume all the way down. Turning a tube preamp or buffer on after the amp is turned on is never a good idea. It usually does cause various unwanted noises, some very loud. :biggrin:
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This is the protocol I always use, but today I wanted to do a quick comparo between BUF engaged and BUF not engaged. I was listening with the BUF NOT engaged. So I took a chance and quickly turned the volume down to zero on my Khozmo passive preamp and turned on the BUF, waited a few seconds to hear the click and there was NO pop or noise of any kind. I then raised the volume to do my comparo and all is well. Could it be there was no pops or sounds of any kind because my preamp is passive?

By the way, I prefer the sound with the BUF engaged. More sheen and fullness. Nice!
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This is the protocol I always use, but today I wanted to do a quick comparo between BUF engaged and BUF not engaged. I was listening with the BUF NOT engaged. So I took a chance and quickly turned the volume down to zero on my Khozmo passive preamp and turned on the BUF, waited a few seconds to hear the click and there was NO pop or noise of any kind. I then raised the volume to do my comparo and all is well. Could it be there was no pops or sounds of any kind because my preamp is passive?

By the way, I prefer the sound with the BUF engaged. More sheen and fullness. Nice!
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Possibly yes, since the preamp is passive. But I can see where the Buff could make some noise when first turned on and engaged before the tube heater gets hot enough to let the tube conduct and stabilize. Heaving the volume all the way down on the preamp can help to especially if the passive preamp happens to be connected after the Buff.
 
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This is the protocol I always use, but today I wanted to do a quick comparo between BUF engaged and BUF not engaged. I was listening with the BUF NOT engaged. So I took a chance and quickly turned the volume down to zero on my Khozmo passive preamp and turned on the BUF, waited a few seconds to hear the click and there was NO pop or noise of any kind. I then raised the volume to do my comparo and all is well. Could it be there was no pops or sounds of any kind because my preamp is passive?

By the way, I prefer the sound with the BUF engaged. More sheen and fullness. Nice!
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Possibly yes, since the preamp is passive. But I can see where the Buff could make some noise when first turned on and engaged before the tube heater gets hot enough to let the tube conduct and stabilize. Heaving the volume all the way down in the preamp can help to especially if the passive preamp happens connected after the Buff.
 
Possibly yes, since the preamp is passive. But I can see where the Buff could make some noise when first turned on and engaged before the tube heater gets hot enough to let the tube conduct and stabilize. Heaving the volume all the way down on the preamp can help to especially if the passive preamp happens to be connected after the Buff.
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Yes, the passive is connected after the BUF. I’m certainly not going to be doing this anymore but I wanted to see what would happen and I’m glad I did.
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Someone mentioned somewhere that you can compare its effectiveness by switching it on and off because it has a relay. I tried it, and I only heard the slightest sound of changing, no big blast. but your mileage may vary, so be careful.
 
Someone mentioned somewhere that you can compare its effectiveness by switching it on and off because it has a relay. I tried it, and I only heard the slightest sound of changing, no big blast. but your mileage may vary, so be careful.
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Yes, it has a relay. It takes about 5-10 seconds after turning it on and you hear a slight click. That’s the relay.
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I know some of you guys are going to use an adapter to accomodate a 6SN7, so have at it and please report your findings. Even if I wanted to I couldn’t because there is not enough clearance in my rack.
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Tube Depot sells a 6SN7 adapter, but evidently it's too big to properly fit the tube opening in the Buf cover. According to this Head-Fi Post, there's a Head-Fi member that makes awesome custom adapters, and can make one for Buf. You'd have to contact member Deyan directly through Head-Fi to order an adapter. So, I guess you'd have to join that forum for the ordering process to happen.
 
Tube Depot sells a 6SN7 adapter, but evidently it's too big to properly fit the tube opening in the Buf cover. According to this Head-Fi Post, there's a Head-Fi member that makes awesome custom adapters, and can make one for Buf. You'd have to contact member Deyan directly through Head-Fi to order an adapter. So, I guess you'd have to join that forum for the ordering process to happen.
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Thanks but I have no interest in an adapter. Are you going to get one?
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I agree about Soviet era NOS equivalents of western tubes. The Reflector 6P14P-EV I use in my ST-35 are the best sounding power tubes
I’ve tried. They have a beefy, weighty and strong sound to them. Just excellent. I also use some Rocket logo NOS 6N1P and 6N3P in other gear and they sound great too. And you can’t beat the price!
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Good to hear that you have a positive review of those tubes. My matched quad should be arriving from Ukraine tomorrow.
 
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