Yamaha GT-2000X

[808_state]

808 State, what cart are you using at the moment. I have an AT ML180 MM cart with ML150 stylus and it sounds great. Lots of attack and punch like you refer to.

I am actually back on my YA-39 arm and using a Needlestein retipped Yamaha MC-1x. Screw it on, set the tracking weight and it sounds fantastic. That's good to know about the AT. I've actually yet to even try an MM cart on my GT. I've got a few AT's (150mlx, 160ml, 33ml/occ, 33ptg/ii) but the ml180 looks like a different body type.

 

[Norliss]

The Yamaha GT-2000 is one of the real vintage kings and you managed to bag the X! Colour me envious

 

[808_state]

The Yamaha GT-2000 is one of the real vintage kings and you managed to bag the X! Colour me envious

At the specs of the X, envious isn't a strong enough word I might rather say "foaming at the mouth".

 

[mrtim6]

Hi and thanks to everyone for your interest and thanks to Theo for the YSA-1 tips. Firstly my apologies for not getting back to you all I’m working away from home home, so I have not had any time to spin up the GT-2000X. Except once to test it was functional. I will be home on leave this month, however I have in-laws visiting so listening time will be compromised.

As soon as I have spun some vinyl on the GT-2000X I will report back. I have some very nice records to try so I will have a listen to those old favourites to try a meaningful A/B with the GT-2000.

 

[oolalajp]

Okay Tim,
I know that you have had your YSA-1 for a while now. So please forgive me if you have already figured-this out: As all of us who own a YSA-1 know if we loosen the grub screw at the collar of the removable headshell, we not only have the ability to move the headshell toward or away from the pivot, we also have the ability to rotate the headshell around the armtube by twisting the headshell in either direction. One of the drawbacks of the YSA-1 is that loosening the screw can cause gravity to rotate the headshell and the for and aft adjustment/movement is almost guaranteed to go adrift in the same rotation.

My way of dealing with this is to gradually slacken the grub screw. After a slight slacken I would test to see whether I can just barely rotate the cartridge on the armtube with some degree of effort required. So basically the headshell was barely able to move. Therefore I could slacken the grub screw off a little bit more to the point where I could move the headshell but the residual friction of the slightly slackened grub screw would prevent unwanted movements of the headshell. It made it easier to 'lock in' pivot to stylus distances and azimuth. I could have confidence that slackening the grub screw wouldn't cause me to lose the setting I had previously, due to the loosened insufficient coupling of the headshell with the armtube whilst that grub screw is slackened.

hello theophile,

i have an ortofon spu on the ya-39. when i look at the angle of the cartridge in relation to the LP as it plays, it seems to me that it is slightly tilted/angled and not perpendicular to the playing surface. my understanding is that this negatively affects playback because the SRA is not optimum. my question has to do with your reference to the “grub screw”. is the screw to which you are referring that small screw on the ya-39 that sits directly behind the collar on the bottom side of the tonearm? are you saying or implying that if i loosen that screw slightly i can slightly rotate the collar/cartridge so to bring it closer to perpendicular? i know you were referring to the ysa-1 in your post, but i also know you have experience with the ya-39 tonearm, and i am looking for a little guidance. any insight you can offer would be much appreciated.

 

[theophile]

hello theophile,

i have an ortofon spu on the ya-39. when i look at the angle of the cartridge in relation to the LP as it plays, it seems to me that it is slightly tilted/angled and not perpendicular to the playing surface. my understanding is that this negatively affects playback because the SRA is not optimum. my question has to do with your reference to the “grub screw”. is the screw to which you are referring that small screw on the ya-39 that sits directly behind the collar on the bottom side of the tonearm? are you saying or implying that if i loosen that screw slightly i can slightly rotate the collar/cartridge so to bring it closer to perpendicular? i know you were referring to the ysa-1 in your post, but i also know you have experience with the ya-39 tonearm, and i am looking for a little guidance. any insight you can offer would be much appreciated.

oola,

What I wrote was only applicable to the YSA -1. What you are trying to do is adjust for azimuth. Remember that terminology. Your SPU is not adjustable for azimuth. Are other headshells similarly twisted in the arm? If not the problem lies in the Ortofon.

Let's see what other owners have to say on this and we will see whether we can arrive at a collective solution.

 

[808_state]

hello theophile,

i have an ortofon spu on the ya-39. when i look at the angle of the cartridge in relation to the LP as it plays, it seems to me that it is slightly tilted/angled and not perpendicular to the playing surface. my understanding is that this negatively affects playback because the SRA is not optimum. my question has to do with your reference to the “grub screw”. is the screw to which you are referring that small screw on the ya-39 that sits directly behind the collar on the bottom side of the tonearm? are you saying or implying that if i loosen that screw slightly i can slightly rotate the collar/cartridge so to bring it closer to perpendicular? i know you were referring to the ysa-1 in your post, but i also know you have experience with the ya-39 tonearm, and i am looking for a little guidance. any insight you can offer would be much appreciated.

Do you notice the same tilted orientation when mounting other cartridges? If so then it's possible the tilt/orientation of your arm could use a slight adjustment/twist. If not then as Theo says it's the SPU at fault. AK member @ateal would be the one to ask.

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/ortofon-spu-on-yamaha-gt-2000.770287/

 

[808_state]

Well I know if I had a 2000x I'd have worn it out by now...I hope mrtim6 will give us an update soon!

 

[theophile]

It seems like Tim has been overeseas for work and hasn't been home to run the comparison. He will do it properly and will either post here or start a new thread. Given the worldwide interest in a GT 2000 vs GT 20000x comparison, I would understand Tim's desire not to rush into anything.

 

[oolalajp]

Do you notice the same tilted orientation when mounting other cartridges? If so then it's possible the tilt/orientation of your arm could use a slight adjustment/twist. If not then as Theo says it's the SPU at fault. AK member @ateal would be the one to ask.

http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/ortofon-spu-on-yamaha-gt-2000.770287/

thanks to you and @theophile for your responses (and thank you for the correct terminology, theophile). i have two, perhaps enviable, problems. (1) this is the first and only cartridge that i own, so i can't do any comparisons, and (2) it sounds absolutely wonderful.

thank you, too, for the link to @ateal's post. i had actually contacted him before mounting the cartridge to see what suggestions he had. i'll see if i can't take a photo to give everyone a better "picture" of what's going on or what i see. i certainly don't feel as if i'm missing anything in the music, which sounds more realistically magical than i could have imagined, but as this is my first foray into turntables and cartridges, i'm want to ask lots of questions to try and find my way.

 

[808_state]

thanks to you and @theophile for your responses (and thank you for the correct terminology, theophile). i have two, perhaps enviable, problems. (1) this is the first and only cartridge that i own, so i can't do any comparisons, and (2) it sounds absolutely wonderful.

thank you, too, for the link to @ateal's post. i had actually contacted him before mounting the cartridge to see what suggestions he had. i'll see if i can't take a photo to give everyone a better "picture" of what's going on or what i see. i certainly don't feel as if i'm missing anything in the music, which sounds more realistically magical than i could have imagined, but as this is my first foray into turntables and cartridges, i'm want to ask lots of questions to try and find my way.

Pictures would help a lot. Also as a gentle suggestion, you might move this discussion over to Ateal's thread or the GT 2000 owners thread. That way we can keep this one strictly about the 2000x and how it upstages/trounces/buries the plain jane 2000 so much that we are all giving up vinyl (and taking up buying crates of kleenex) until we find one.

 

[theophile]

If the GT 2000x, trounces buries the GT 2000, I'll buy one. The FujiK GT 2000 is so accomplished that its superior would be worth working with.

 

[808_state]

I'm imagining his black 2000 sitting by the curb with a half eaten can of beans sitting on top of it.

 

[ateal]

hello theophile,

i have an ortofon spu on the ya-39. when i look at the angle of the cartridge in relation to the LP as it plays, it seems to me that it is slightly tilted/angled and not perpendicular to the playing surface. my understanding is that this negatively affects playback because the SRA is not optimum. my question has to do with your reference to the “grub screw”. is the screw to which you are referring that small screw on the ya-39 that sits directly behind the collar on the bottom side of the tonearm? are you saying or implying that if i loosen that screw slightly i can slightly rotate the collar/cartridge so to bring it closer to perpendicular? i know you were referring to the ysa-1 in your post, but i also know you have experience with the ya-39 tonearm, and i am looking for a little guidance. any insight you can offer would be much appreciated.

Just saw this post. Can you send me a picture in a PM and I will try to see what the problem is. Thanks

 

[mrtim6]

Sorry guys this year is not looking good for testing the GT-2000X I’m still away and won’t be home for a while. I promise I will update this thread as soon as I get back, please bare with me. I bought the mint protractor for the YSA-1. Unfortunately I had family commitments that I had to honnor hence my lack of updates. This beauty is under a sheet at the moment awaiting my return...

I still am amazed at the quality of construction that went into her. The GT-2000 is an extremely well built turntable- this is just better in ever way (fit & finish wise) I can’t yet comment on sonic ability yet. I plan to use some of my best recorded albums to test both turntables. I’m familiar with the GT-2000 so I echo everyone’s comments here - probably best value direct drive super deck EVER.

 

[808_state]

I think I need to call my therapist...

...but seriously hope the schedule clears up for you. Can't wait to hear about the glorious a/b to end all a/b's.

 

[mrtim6]

Sorry 808 state...

Hang in there buddy

I’m living through headphones atm

 

[808_state]

Sorry 808 state...

Hang in there buddy

I’m living through headphones atm

Patiently waiting in a dark (smoke free) room ; )

 

[theophile]

Tim, after you have satisfied yourself about the merits and comparative merits of the two turntables I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about the use of the SRA platform underneath the 2000X.

 

[mrtim6]

Sorry all for keeping you waiting- I’m still away from home I’ll be back permanently in November 2019 with hopefully a decent update. I’ve had no time to enjoy this beauty yet. I will update this thread once I’ve had a chance.