I hear good things about Larceny. Any opinions here?
I've tried that long ago...fairly good sour mash, but PVW (the S-W type) it is not.
Russellc
PVW is good but I have had better.
That isnt, its the 15 year with no S-W in it at all. The 20 year Family Reserve version used to be, but is now mixed with other (albeit fine) Whiskeys provided by Buffalo Trace. If you can latch onto some 23 year Family Reserve, your comment would be equivalent to, but not superior to, the 20 year. As I recall from the last bottle of 15 year like you show, its is higher than the 90 proof of the other Family Reserves....
Your 15 year, while good, holds no candle to the S-W I speak of. For that matter, I prefer their Lot B to the 15 year Family reserve. It is not S-W either.
http://oldripvanwinkle.com/products/pappy-van-winkles-family-reserve-23yr/
The only one I havent had a ton of is the Rye. Appears the 23 year is a little over 95 proof.
http://oldripvanwinkle.com/products/
Russellc
http://firstwefeast.com/drink/pappy-van-winkle-bourbon-facts/
Just for your FYI -
"So what's the story behind this liquid gold? Based in Frankfort, KY, the Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery is not actually a distillery at all, but rather a company that contracts the production of its coveted spirits to Buffalo Trace. Julian "Pappy" Van Winkle, for whom the bourbon is named, started selling whiskey in 1893 as a salesman for W. L. Weller. He would eventually go on to become the president of the Stitzel-Weller Distillery, which produced many well-respected whiskeys through the 1960s. However, years after Pappy passed away, stockholders forced the sale of the distillery; to keep the family tradition alive, Julian Van Winkle III and his father started buying back barrels of their own bourbon and bottling it under the Old Rip Van Winkle label (some of which is still being sold today)."
Buffalo Trace cannot produce enough neutral spirits on it's own to keep up with demand, hence why they are buying it. Often times, the internal and external are blended together.
Since Weller is now getting scarce, I picked up some Larceny for $29/750ml, which is pretty good for NYC pricing. I hear it is cheaper elsewhere in the country. I also bought a bottle of Bernheim a Wheat whiskey, I only had a wee dram but I thought it was pretty good.
Anything over 90 proof is just too harsh for my tastes. I love Knob Creek Single Barrel but at 120 proof I don't enjoy it straight up.
Aaahhhh...S-W, touché .
If you are presented the opportunity, try the Elijah Craig 21 or 23 yr old. Very good. Heaven Hill knocked it out of the park on those.
twkted, this is my second bottle of Larceny & since I am a fan of wheat style bourbons, I liked it enough to buy the second bottle. I am afraid that the word has gotten out that Van Winkle selects first & Weller gets second dibs on barrels, so some folks are buying Weller thinking that it is a close second to Van Winkle. One of my usual sources for Weller was completely sold out when I went there last week.
I tried the Bernheim and liked it & will try some more this weekend. The rye bite was missing, obviously, but you could clearly identify it as an American whiskey. I certainly enjoyed it more than my foray into 100% corn whiskey, "Mellow Corn" which was too oily for my taste.
twkted, this is my second bottle of Larceny & since I am a fan of wheat style bourbons, I liked it enough to buy the second bottle. I am afraid that the word has gotten out that Van Winkle selects first & Weller gets second dibs on barrels, so some folks are buying Weller thinking that it is a close second to Van Winkle. One of my usual sources for Weller was completely sold out when I went there last week.
I tried the Bernheim and liked it & will try some more this weekend. The rye bite was missing, obviously, but you could clearly identify it as an American whiskey. I certainly enjoyed it more than my foray into 100% corn whiskey, "Mellow Corn" which was too oily for my taste.
Pappy's Distillery was ACTUALLY BOUGHT by Buffalo Trace. Also, Pappy BUYS barrels from BT to sell as their own brand
That is the connection.
Over the past year or so, my liquor cabinet has been home to Maker`s, Woodford Reserve, Elijah Craig 12 year-old, Elmer T. Lee Single Barrel. All good choices, IMHO, with high marks going to Woodford and Elmer T.
As an aside, I found Bernheim Original 100% Wheat Whiskey to be a tasty alternative....