It's the new Milli Vanilli...

[OldJBL]

A couple of years ago I found that the sound quality of wired IEMs depends a lot on the USB DAC being used.

 

[DesertRatt]

I assume AI music isn't going away. No matter what the shortcomings are today, it will expand, probably get better technically, and it will find a place. An obvious place will be in television advertising, movie scores, TV theme songs. A royalty-free theme for junk tv shows (like Gilligan's Island), and commercial rubbish of that ilk.

Part of good human made music and art is human soul, emotion, and dreaming. The artist puts that INTO the music, and the listener takes it from the music and absorbs it into their experience. If it's all AI, all the time, then humans will be assuming the values of the robots. Ewwwwww!

 

[spicer]

There used to be a point to music. You identified with a band and their music. Maybe you even went and saw them in concert. Now we simply have computers spitting out "music"... What does that mean? Is it the next step on having us completely controlled by robots? It takes something that is a universal connection and reduces it to preprogrammed bits and bytes... To me it's just one more ripoff in a world full of ripoffs. Doing the bare minimum to put out a "product".

I for one am very wary of AI. Sometimes it can give helpful information but a lot of times it can be wrong as well. There is no substitute for human beings. What kind of world are the powers to be planning for us? Wall-E...

It lacks curiosity. I did not say 'real' curiosity because it begs a definition of real but, like porn, I know it when I see it.

 

[spicer]

I assume AI music isn't going away. No matter what the shortcomings are today, it will expand, probably get better technically, and it will find a place. An obvious place will be in television advertising, movie scores, TV theme songs. A royalty-free theme for junk tv shows (like Gilligan's Island), and commercial rubbish of that ilk.

Part of good human made music and art is human soul, emotion, and dreaming. The artist puts that INTO the music, and the listener takes it from the music and absorbs it into their experience. If it's all AI, all the time, then humans will be assuming the values of the robots. Ewwwwww!

Assuming the values... well, in so many ways, already.

 

[KeninDC]

Agree that it's bad and I just can't put my finger on it as to why, but like @spicer says, I know it when I hear it.

Music has been "programmed" for some time now. Modern country is no exception. Having AI program it when you give it the proper instructions and ending up with a kinda "decent" result is no surprise. Plenty of real bands like Tame Impala (just one dude) and Tortoise (old dudes) sound like AI background music these days.

Me? I'm clinging to my analog sources (except when a CD like Steven Wilson's remix of the Stones' Black & Blue sounds great) and hiding out in my basement, mixing up the medicine.

 

[OBMG74]

I take it you haven't listened to music streamed through "earbuds" lately. My Airpods Pro 2's, while not the top of the line, sound astoundingly good and I gather that the IEMs that headies, or whatever headphone fans call themselves, are better yet. It's not 2001, nobody listens to MP3s and the Ipod and those awful earbuds that shipped with them, haven't been cutting edge in nearly 25 years. The SQ from a smartphone with losslessstreaming and even average earphones is pretty astounding these days, even with the degradation of bluetooth thrown into the mix.

You are correct, I haven’t kept up with the new technology.

Let me try to articulate in a different way:

Will a teenager listening to music on state of the art earbuds really care or know if that music is AI generated?

 

[spicer]

You are correct, I haven’t kept up with the new technology.

Let me try to articulate in a different way:

Will a teenager listening to music on state of the art earbuds really care or know if that music is AI generated?

Depends on the teenager.

 

[Mingo]

Will a teenager listening to music on state of the art earbuds really care or know if that music is AI generated?

Some will, some won't. I suspect the same is true for the general population and a few AKers. And with improvements in AI technology, it's going to get harder to tell how music is created - human, AI, or hybrids.

 

[RunOutGroove]

I really HATE the idea of AI anything, at least as far as the arts go. Just like any technology though, it seems that once the cat's out of the bag, that it'll get used more and more widely as time goes on. I can only hope that once it really takes over music, visual art, literature, film, etc that I'll be long gone...

 

[Gigantic]

There used to be a point to music. You identified with a band and their music. Maybe you even went and saw them in concert. Now we simply have computers spitting out "music"... What does that mean? Is it the next step on having us completely controlled by robots? It takes something that is a universal connection and reduces it to preprogrammed bits and bytes... To me it's just one more ripoff in a world full of ripoffs. Doing the bare minimum to put out a "product".

I for one am very wary of AI. Sometimes it can give helpful information but a lot of times it can be wrong as well. There is no substitute for human beings. What kind of world are the powers to be planning for us? Wall-E...

 

[Gigantic]

You are correct, I haven’t kept up with the new technology.

Let me try to articulate in a different way:

Will a teenager listening to music on state of the art earbuds really care or know if that music is AI generated?

Depends on the teenager.

When I was a teenager in the 80's, and I was just talking to a close friend about this over the weekend, among my group of friends, music was our north star, it was our common denominator; our identities were formed by our family trauma, by not fitting in with normative culture and by being sensitive to the zeitgeist of the era and our music reflected that, becoming a mirror that encapsulated our shared experiences, as our group formed around that music as an identity. Music was inseparable from our friendships, our community and ourselves. At the time (and even now) I found it inconceivable that anyone would identify with the bland, formulaic, bubblegum pop that mainstream culture attempted to shove down our throats via the radio and standard, daily MTV programming, yet they did. They always have: there were people who genuinely preferred Connie Stevens, Ferrante & Teischer, Bobby Vinton, Leslie Gore, Dean Martin, the Four Tops or the Monkees in the 60s; The Partidge Family, Englebert Humperdink, Ray Stevens, Paul Anka, Gilbert O’Sullivan, Disco, Olivie Newton John, et al over rock & R&B artists who were actually making interesting music.

Corporate rock and pop has always focused on the lowest common denominator, what will make the major labels the most amount of money with the least amount of effort. In some ways, AI is replacing the songwriting hacks in the Brill Building and more recently Nashville, and the bland, good looking and marginally talented performers backed by the best session musicians available with "producers" who enter generative AI prompts. The major labels and the oligarchs who own the AI rake in the cash and the uncritical masses lap it up like McDonalds, Twinkies, & Diet Coke.

 

[wmgwizard]

Of all the times when an extra finger would be advantageous.....

I only need one to express my feelings about AI generated entertainment !!!

 

[Gigantic]

I only need one to express my feelings about AI generated entertainment !!!

I'm from Philly, where we wave with 4 fingers down.

 

[wmgwizard]

I'm from Philly, where we wave with 4 fingers down.

I'm just across the bridge in South Jersey, we share the same sentiments.

 

[DeeCee]

Not a country fan, but I can’t wait to see “live” performances! Women throwing hotel room keys and panties onto an empty stage…

 

[DesertRatt]

AI is the latest (pray God, the last) major event in the Industrial Revolution that began in 1760. It's an era of the human experience, and it will end--sooner or later. It is failing miserably as evidenced by the rapidly failing "health and reproductive capacity" of the human population. It has been a failed experiment. But the end might come after we are all departed.

In the mean time, there are billions of pieces of media with real human music waiting for us at the Good Will, or local garage sale!

 

[GChief]

 

[DesertRatt]

^^^ Interesting, but.....

How do thousands of Jimmies reach the 500 people and convince them to commit $5 a month to him?

The Patreon system has been around a long time. As a listener, how many Jimmies can I afford to give $5 a month?

 

[YY1]

It's thew Milli Vanilli taking over
It's the new Milli Vanilli come to call

It's thew Milli Vanilli taking over

It's gettin' us all.


(sorry, couldn't resist)

 

[GChief]

^^^ Interesting, but.....

How do thousands of Jimmies reach the 500 people and convince them to commit $5 a month to him?

The Patreon system has been around a long time. As a listener, how many Jimmies can I afford to give $5 a month?

Mostly posted about the, its only going to get better, more than likely to the point that we won't be able to tell. Will I see it at 60yrs old? I think so. Will many complaining bout it age out before we get to that point? Probably