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It's the new Milli Vanilli...

Some critics might ease up on "Boston" now...the band that never was?

The AI simulation is from my POV; wrong, and there should be legal consequences for those imitating the real artists.


Maybe "robots" prefer this ghostly manipulation of music? :dunno:


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YY1 said:
Remember the hate for drum machines?

Sampling?

Heck, keyboards. So bad people put statements on their album covers.
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This is a good point. A great deal of non-human technology has infected recordings since Pro Tools era began. A large amount of pop music has completely synthetic rhythm sections, and then there is autotune, and more effects than you can shake a stick at
 
Gigantic said:
When I was a teenager in the 80's, and I was just talking to a close friend about this over the weekend, among my group of friends, music was our north star, it was our common denominator; our identities were formed by our family trauma, by not fitting in with normative culture and by being sensitive to the zeitgeist of the era and our music reflected that, becoming a mirror that encapsulated our shared experiences, as our group formed around that music as an identity. Music was inseparable from our friendships, our community and ourselves. At the time (and even now) I found it inconceivable that anyone would identify with the bland, formulaic, bubblegum pop that mainstream culture attempted to shove down our throats via the radio and standard, daily MTV programming, yet they did. They always have: there were people who genuinely preferred Connie Stevens, Ferrante & Teischer, Bobby Vinton, Leslie Gore, Dean Martin, the Four Tops or the Monkees in the 60s; The Partidge Family, Englebert Humperdink, Ray Stevens, Paul Anka, Gilbert O’Sullivan, Disco, Olivie Newton John, et al over rock & R&B artists who were actually making interesting music.

Corporate rock and pop has always focused on the lowest common denominator, what will make the major labels the most amount of money with the least amount of effort. In some ways, AI is replacing the songwriting hacks in the Brill Building and more recently Nashville, and the bland, good looking and marginally talented performers backed by the best session musicians available with "producers" who enter generative AI prompts. The major labels and the oligarchs who own the AI rake in the cash and the uncritical masses lap it up like McDonalds, Twinkies, & Diet Coke.
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I don't much like the kind of corporate, ultra popular music that you reference either, but I feel like I kind of understand people's attraction to it. I'd say that a lot of people enjoy music, but not on a very deep level. If something is catchy so that they can sing along with it, doesn't challenge them too much and is readily available for them to check out, they will get something out of it - enough to where they won't be looking any further for something to satisfy. There's also the fact that lots of folks get really sentimental about music and where they were in their lives when they first heard something counts for a lot, often a lot more than the relative quality of the music itself. This is what drives the whole oldies, and classic rock radio stations. Those of us who are listening with more critical ears will quickly find those old songs trite and even the ones we may like a bit better, we'll have gotten bored of many years ago. Popular music, or at least the really popular stuff, is really pitched in a way like a TV commercial, that it needs to be memorable and the substance of it is secondary. For a lot of listeners that's enough.

I find it interesting how certain very popular albums are rarely found in people's large music collections, so that the more records one has, the less likely they are to have certain very popular titles. They sell well enough among folks who don't buy enough music to really have much of a collection...
 
YY1 said:
Remember the hate for drum machines?

Sampling?

Heck, keyboards. So bad people put statements on their album covers.
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I don't mind any of that stuff. To me those are just different colors in the paintbox and all require humans to make decisions about how these things are used. AI is very different to me though, because it then becomes the computer that's creating the thing, rather than computer tech being used as a creative tool...

The whole thing of "no synthesizers were used on this album" strikes me as patently silly. I would probably avoid music that has this as a bragging right.
 
70's Psychedelic Desert

I don't know how I feel about AI music. I know I like the graphics of this page on YT, but while some of it is cool, it seems little more than nuevo elevator music. This page presents a real cool comic book vibe as the album cover for what they produce. I like that art. But I'm happier, I think, with the real thing with cool jazz or funky jazz as the search on any of the streamers.

FWIW - I saw Milli Vanilli with my ex at the Baltimore Arena. She was a huge fan and I couldn't have cared less, but I could drive and she couldn't so I got the tickets and off we went. She turned to me during the MV performance and said, "How are they singing doing all that cardio on stage?" They were running all over and doing crazy numbers of humpy-push-ups. I thought it was funny. I responded, "They aren't singing. It's the exact track of what they play on the radio." She said, "It IS! I didn't want to believe it." LOL

We both liked Young MC way more that night. Lotsa fun, but MV was fake. Maybe the music wasn't, but they were bogus.
 
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