Random Thoughts or Whatever

[DesertRatt]

I can't stress how important it is for dog trainers and owners to recognize the importance of a dog's nose...if you are uneasy, frustrated, worried, or stressed in any way while working with your dog, they will know IMMEDIATELY, and end up feeling just as stressed or worse. A trainer I work with is fond of telling some of her clients that "bad training is worse than no training," meaning if you don't feel good, serene, and confident, and can't make a training session fun for you and the dog, wait until you do and you can.

The critical aspect of the domestication of dogs is that they have CONSCIOUS connections to humans. It isn't simply that they lost their fear of humans. They can READ human emotional conditions and react appropriately to them. Just watch how carefully a dog looks into your eyes and reads your face. This is also how dogs became therapy dogs by being able to read pain and discomfort in people. It's really quite remarkable and it is not found in other animals to anywhere near the extent that it is in dogs.

 

[Mr Boochie]

1. A Dog That Seems To Know When His Owner is Coming Home: Videotaped Experiments and Observations
2. Can animals detect when their owners are returning home? An experimental test of the 'psychic pet' phenomenon - PubMed

Rupert Sheldrake pioneered this research and then documented experiments the public could carryout.

It's interesting stuff. He also did the research regarding people knowing when they are being stared at.

Dogs are crazy. When I go to the mountains, a 6-hour drive, they sleep like dogs in the back. Sleeping, along with all the human passengers.

I'm driving on the highway, and as soon as I get 1/4 mile to the turnoff to the lodge (it could be day or night, sunshine or snow), they'll wake up and start going crazy. I have no idea how they know, but it's a 100% all-the-time thing. And this is with several sets of dogs that I've owned over the years.

 

[MuseChaser]

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2. Can animals detect when their owners are returning home? An experimental test of the 'psychic pet' phenomenon - PubMed
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Thanks for the links. I couldn't get access to the entire study, but the abstract to which you linked states...

"The paper then details the procedure and results of four experiments. Analysis of the data did not support the hypothesis that Jaytee could psychically detect when his owner was returning home. "

That is in agreement with my earlier statements; while a dog's senses, especially olfactory and to a lesser extent auditory, may be akin to paranormal to us when compared to their human counterparts, there is nothing psychic about them.

 

[MuseChaser]

Dogs are crazy. When I go to the mountains, a 6-hour drive, they sleep like dogs in the back. Sleeping, along with all the human passengers.

I'm driving on the highway, and as soon as I get 1/4 mile to the turnoff to the lodge (it could be day or night, sunshine or snow), they'll wake up and start going crazy. I have no idea how they know, but it's a 100% all-the-time thing. And this is with several sets of dogs that I've owned over the years.

Absolutely. Virtually ALL of my dogs know within miles when we are nearing a place they've been before, even if it was years ago, and especially if it was a place they enjoyed. Again, it's their noses.

 

[Mr Boochie]

Absolutely. Virtually ALL of my dogs know within miles when we are nearing a place they've been before, even if it was years ago, and especially if it was a place they enjoyed. Again, it's their noses.

Crazy animals.

 

[DesertRatt]

Thanks for the links. I couldn't get access to the entire study, but the abstract to which you linked states...

"The paper then details the procedure and results of four experiments. Analysis of the data did not support the hypothesis that Jaytee could psychically detect when his owner was returning home. "

That is in agreement with my earlier statements; while a dog's senses, especially olfactory and to a lesser extent auditory, may be akin to paranormal to us when compared to their human counterparts, there is nothing psychic about them.

In the original study, Sheldrake didn't claim this was true for all dogs, but rather, that the dogs who did this formed a statistically significant share that exceeded any random capability. And furthermore, one of the subjects that got the investigation going had the capability and defied any other cause - i.e. it wasn;t sound, or proximity, or routine, or time of day, or any other variable which they eliminated in testing.

The first link is the more extensive info.

 

[DesertRatt]

Crazy animals.

I am not surprised by any of it. It's dogs evolving. My wife has been following several of the "talking dogs" who use buttons on the floor to communicate with owners. Each button emits one word. The dogs tap on the buttons to talk. Yes, there are some purely fraudulent examples, but there are many that I think are legitimate. It's not a long reach to go from dogs pawing on your knee as a signal to go OUT, to a dog tapping the OUT button, or HUNGRY button and beyond.

 

[Mr Boochie]

I am not surprised by any of it. It's dogs evolving. My wife has been following several of the "talking dogs" who use buttons on the floor to communicate with owners. Each button emits one word. The dogs tap on the buttons to talk. Yes, there are some purely fraudulent examples, but there are many that I think are legitimate. It's not a long reach to go from dogs pawing on your knee as a signal to go OUT, to a dog tapping the OUT button, or HUNGRY button and beyond.

My dogs scratch the back door when it's time to be fed. No need for buttons.

It's a Pavlovian thing, right?

 

[MuseChaser]

Just going to leave this here....

 

[usedto]

The dash of my pickup when I got in it at 3:00 this afternoon.

 

[Mr Boochie]

The dash of my pickup when I got in it at 3:00 this afternoon.

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It's 99ºF here in Pasadena, CA area, 4:30pm.

 

[GordonW]

The dash of my pickup when I got in it at 3:00 this afternoon.

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I remember 119 degrees popping up on the on-dash thermometer of the truck we were in, driving through Needles CA about this time last year.

Fortunately, the truck had GOOD air conditioning.

Regards,
Gordon.

 

[Copanel]

Every time I pass by this milestone, I am reminded of the Sansui AU-111.
Maybe I should make an effort to buy one.

 

[Mr Boochie]

Every time I pass by this milestone, I am reminded of the Sansui AU-111.View attachment 3802889
Maybe I should make an effort to buy one.

It's built rock solid!

 

[Mystic]

 

[DesertRatt]

I'm trying. I just made these two items this summer.

 

[spicer]

I'm trying. I just made these two items this summer. View attachment 3803491View attachment 3803492

Nice, nice, nice.

 

[DesertRatt]

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For 25 years after WWII, we made everything for the entire world. We were, "The world's workshop." Even as late as 1980, when I worked in Silicon Valley, all around me companies were manufacturing, at volume, disk drives, printers, game consoles, home computers, test instruments, semiconductors. By 1990, all of that manufacturing was GONE! Everywhere we went you heard the same refrain, "OUTSOURCING." It was one of the most radical transformations of the 20th century.

If you lived in the rust belt states, you probably saw the same thing with steel and industrial products, like machine tools, and molds, and heavy equipment.

What happened? During and directly after WWII the USA had strict capital controls. You couldn't take capital out of the country and invest it in a foreign land. Then in the mid and late 1970s, the US repealed and killed all those capital controls. Now, money could flow to anywhere in the world - and flow it did! "Since 1974, the U.S. has maintained a policy of free capital mobility."

Americans would love to be back in the manufacturing bid'ness, but the bankers will never again submit to capital controls.

 

[old_tv_nut]

"If you lived in the rust belt states, you probably saw the same thing with steel and industrial products, like machine tools, and molds, and heavy equipment."
Not to mention clothing and furniture.

 

[old_tv_nut]

Thoughts while vacuuming:

We think of the world as made up of things, but it is mostly made up of dust that gets on things.