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AI is not smarter than us

I'll stay with The Age of AHairyAss.
"If you consider that many of the intellectual tasks we once had to do supposedly soon will all be done by AI and the menial backbreaking tasks to robots. That leaves us to do exactly what?" Sorry. I thought it was an actual question, but I see your were just goofing.
 
But is there typically leisure time during wars?
Don't try and move the goal posts. You nominated a time period. Said that within that time period leisure time increased. I'm just pointing out that a lot of unfavourable outcomes arised within that time period you nominated. Not just the favourable thing you cherrypicked.

IMO, the bigger picture is being missed for the minor effects of the Industrial Revolution. The reality is global life expectancy increased from 40 in 1800 to 73 today.
 
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Just in case you wondered. :)

Though I think ChatGPT is an OpenAI (note: it is not an Open-source AI). So confusing... :idea:
 
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All made possible by the Industrial Revolution.
Yes, that's true. What we have not seen yet is the backside, or decay side, of that arc of history. Population ballooned to 8 billion, when energy becomes more scarce, famines are sure to arise. Populations in the most developed countries are suffering several profound problems: 1. very bad health both physical and mental as both the food system, and the environment become clogged with carcinigenics and other debilitating chemicals. 2. declining reproductive capacity. 3. Growing disapproval of authoritarian governmental arrangements that impinge on authentic freedom. 4. A growing economic impoverishment as technology aids the economic winners to extract ever more from the economic losers. ex: Gen Z is unable to buy homes as easily as their parents did.

I think the beneficial side of the I.R. reached its zenith in about 1969. The West is still able to prop up their economies - but the trendliness do not look good.
 
A lot of people died in wars during that period also. Is substantial leisure time responsible for everything or does it get to cherrypick just the good stuff?

What was the old saying about an idle mind?

I can think of one current, very relevant example- the phenomenon of "doom scrolling"...

More leisure time CAN be a great thing. But, you have to balance that against some people, who just don't seem to know what to do with themselves, if they're not busy doing something productive. I have some of that inside me. Yes, I get tired and grumpy when I'm overworked, like most anyone else- but I think I am GENUINELY more happy when I'm doing something that has a positive, substantial, significant goal,- especially if that goal can help someone else- than if I am just doing something that most people would consider to be "just for fun", or even worse- having nothing of substance to do at all for significant lengths of time (as opposed to "just taking a break"- which is, by contrast, necessary and good)- too much idle time CAN lead to nit-picking myself or finding undue fault in others, sometimes.

And BTW: I'm NOT HIDING from myself in work, or "staying busy all the time" as opposed to being self-aware- it's just that I internalize the fact that I don't have all the time in the world- and to just while it away, isn't a good use of it.

Regards,
Gordon.
 
To bring this back to the opening post, AI can reduce repetitive tasks such as sifting through data
Yes, that's true. What we have not seen yet is the backside, or decay side, of that arc of history. Population ballooned to 8 billion, when energy becomes more scarce, famines are sure to arise. Populations in the most developed countries are suffering several profound problems: 1. very bad health both physical and mental as both the food system, and the environment become clogged with carcinigenics and other debilitating chemicals. 2. declining reproductive capacity. 3. Growing disapproval of authoritarian governmental arrangements that impinge on authentic freedom. 4. A growing economic impoverishment as technology aids the economic winners to extract ever more from the economic losers. ex: Gen Z is unable to buy homes as easily as their parents did.

I think the beneficial side of the I.R. reached its zenith in about 1969. The West is still able to prop up their economies - but the trendliness do not look good.

I will address in order 1-4.

1. Bad health borne of poor personal choices. Obesity and the disease that results are over indulgences. Environment has significantly improved with move away from coal and near universal adoption of cat converters. Most of the debilitating chemicals such as DDT and PCB's are banned.

2. Declining reproductive capacity in what part of the world? For some reason, westerners are pessimistic and don't want to sire children into a world they do not approve of. Or they are hedonistic and want to delay parental responsibility for as long as possible.

3. Give me an example. The fact that we are conducting this conversation should be conclusive but for some it is not enough.

4. Homes away from the coasts are very affordable. Not everyone can live in Newport Beach or the Hamptons.

4a. 1969 represented the zenith of pollution. Leaded gas, unregulated dumping of toxic by-products. DDT in household bug sprays and on our crops.

4b. Trendlines look great. Better to be alive today than at any time in history. We are secure in our homes and property. We enjoy freedom of travel and speech. Justice system is robust. If you know of a better epoch, present it.
 
To bring this back to the opening post, AI can reduce repetitive tasks such as sifting through data


I will address in order 1-4.

1. Bad health borne of poor personal choices. Obesity and the disease that results are over indulgences. Environment has significantly improved with move away from coal and near universal adoption of cat converters. Most of the debilitating chemicals such as DDT and PCB's are banned.

2. Declining reproductive capacity in what part of the world? For some reason, westerners are pessimistic and don't want to sire children into a world they do not approve of. Or they are hedonistic and want to delay parental responsibility for as long as possible.

3. Give me an example. The fact that we are conducting this conversation should be conclusive but for some it is not enough.

4. Homes away from the coasts are very affordable. Not everyone can live in Newport Beach or the Hamptons.

4a. 1969 represented the zenith of pollution. Leaded gas, unregulated dumping of toxic by-products. DDT in household bug sprays and on our crops.

4b. Trendlines look great. Better to be alive today than at any time in history. We are secure in our homes and property. We enjoy freedom of travel and speech. Justice system is robust. If you know of a better epoch, present it.
4. I live in Michigan, and no, they're not. At least if you want to live in a decent area. Every post war starter home in my town gets knocked down when it's sold. They're replaced with homes 2x or3x the size priced at 500k to 1.3MM. I bought our little house when I was in my mid 20's. Can the average 26 year old do that today?
 
4. I live in Michigan, and no, they're not. At least if you want to live in a decent area. Every post war starter home in my town gets knocked down when it's sold. They're replaced with homes 2x or3x the size priced at 500k to 1.3MM. I bought our little house when I was in my mid 20's. Can the average 26 year old do that today?

You need to move where you can afford to live, not where you want to live. I would love to live in a Beverly Hills estate but I am realistic.
 
4. I live in Michigan, and no, they're not. At least if you want to live in a decent area. Every post war starter home in my town gets knocked down when it's sold. They're replaced with homes 2x or3x the size priced at 500k to 1.3MM. I bought our little house when I was in my mid 20's. Can the average 26 year old do that today?
In many places the valuable thing being purchased isn't really the house—it's the land and the location. The land appreciates; and the older house depreciates.
 
You need to move where you can afford to live, not where you want to live. I would love to live in a Beverly Hills estate but I am realistic.
**** that. My family has lived here for generations. I live in a normal middle class town, not Beverly Hills. Everywhere is becoming unaffordable for the average person.
 
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