Yamaha GT-2000 Turntable Social Group
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Not sure when I'll have the budget for a 2000? I figure I can always get the money out of the 1000 when the time comes. I don't see either one depreciating. Looks like this:
Pretty scarce around here. May be a Japan only item unless one shows up in your neck of the woods?
Not sure when I'll have the budget for a 2000? I figure I can always get the money out of the 1000 when the time comes. I don't see either one depreciating. Looks like this:
Pretty scarce around here. May be a Japan only item unless one shows up in your neck of the woods?
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Arkay
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Thanks, Theo! Hhhhhmmm, with all those links here instead of on the Social Group, I'm wondering why I bothered setting it up?! 
Actually, I think I'll add them in there, with just a few links per post, to get them all in the threads. I didn't think about the post-length limit when I set up the group. The idea was to have one "master location" to connect to all the spread-out info. Or maybe just add one link from there to this thread? Anyway, the intent was there.
The shop where I got my GT-2000 has at least one or two GT-750s sitting on the shelves. I don't recall seeing a GT-1000 there lately, but the owner may be able to locate one, if that's what you really want. I looked at and considered getting one of the GT-750s, but held out for the GT-2000 that I've had my heart set on. Now I'm glad I did! Any of them is a good TT, including the (probably rarest, except for the GT-2000X) GT-1000. But the GT-2000 is clearly the best, with improved sonics over the others (probably due largely to the more massive plinth and other minor differences). If you want me to, I can put you in touch with the guy (or help you arrange the deal; I don't think the guy knows much --if any-- English(?)), but I suspect the shipping costs could be a "killer"; these are heavy. Then again, you'd have to ship from Japan, which should cost almost as much.
BrocLuno, if you are seriously interested in the GT series, feel free to join the GT-2000 Social Group; I left it open to the public, rather than invitation-only.
You can play The Police on your GT-2000 turntable and get music as the result.
Try playing with the Police using your GT-2000 car, and I don't think you'll enjoy the result as much! 
Two very different kinds of 'stings' involved!
I like that "You ain't lived until..." comment. I've found over and over again, that when I have tried to describe listening/hearing experiences with really exceptional audio gear like the GT-2000 or the big early Infinity speakers, people don't seem to be able to "get it", because they have no frame of reference for it. They say "Yes, I know what you mean; I've heard similar from my <insert name>." But I know from firsthand experience that what I'm talking about is a different 'order of magnitude' or an experience that is qualitatively speaking, fundamentally different from what they mention. It's hard for people to imagine things they have never experienced. Then one day they get the chance to hear it, and say "Oh, NOW I understand what you were saying. Wow!"
I think those around here who own GT-2000s will understand what I mean. I have yet to hear ANYONE who has actually used one of these not say it was an upgrade in their system. Even the people who have far more expensive/higher end turntables give it serious respect, if they have heard it. Maybe they prefer their costly exotica, but they don't look down on the GT-2000, or on you for owning one. Several have agreed the GT-2000 is "as good as, just different from" some of the best TTs out there (stopping short of the ultra-high end Rockport Sirius IIIs and Caliburn Continuums, which best ANYTHING else ... but short of those, I can easily live with a GT-2000; it gets pretty far down the scale of diminishing returns, already).
But when you mention the TT to someone who has never heard one before, you get responses like a bland, flat or mildly dismissive, "Oh, yes, Yamaha. Um, that's one of those direct drives, isn't it?" You KNOW they haven't the faintest clue what they are missing, and nothing you say will likely change their attitudes, unless/until they hear one first-hand.
Most people fall in-between, with open minds but no experience of hearing the sound (or lack of it) of these TTs. Hopefully, through more threads like these, we'll encourage more people to seek out and hear these remarkable TTs for themselves. Then others can know what we know, or to put it more accurately, can hear what we hear.
Oh, and surfing is great, too! :yes:
Actually, I think I'll add them in there, with just a few links per post, to get them all in the threads. I didn't think about the post-length limit when I set up the group. The idea was to have one "master location" to connect to all the spread-out info. Or maybe just add one link from there to this thread? Anyway, the intent was there.The shop where I got my GT-2000 has at least one or two GT-750s sitting on the shelves. I don't recall seeing a GT-1000 there lately, but the owner may be able to locate one, if that's what you really want. I looked at and considered getting one of the GT-750s, but held out for the GT-2000 that I've had my heart set on. Now I'm glad I did! Any of them is a good TT, including the (probably rarest, except for the GT-2000X) GT-1000. But the GT-2000 is clearly the best, with improved sonics over the others (probably due largely to the more massive plinth and other minor differences). If you want me to, I can put you in touch with the guy (or help you arrange the deal; I don't think the guy knows much --if any-- English(?)), but I suspect the shipping costs could be a "killer"; these are heavy. Then again, you'd have to ship from Japan, which should cost almost as much.
BrocLuno, if you are seriously interested in the GT series, feel free to join the GT-2000 Social Group; I left it open to the public, rather than invitation-only.
You can play The Police on your GT-2000 turntable and get music as the result.
Try playing with the Police using your GT-2000 car, and I don't think you'll enjoy the result as much! Two very different kinds of 'stings' involved!I like that "You ain't lived until..." comment. I've found over and over again, that when I have tried to describe listening/hearing experiences with really exceptional audio gear like the GT-2000 or the big early Infinity speakers, people don't seem to be able to "get it", because they have no frame of reference for it. They say "Yes, I know what you mean; I've heard similar from my <insert name>." But I know from firsthand experience that what I'm talking about is a different 'order of magnitude' or an experience that is qualitatively speaking, fundamentally different from what they mention. It's hard for people to imagine things they have never experienced. Then one day they get the chance to hear it, and say "Oh, NOW I understand what you were saying. Wow!"
I think those around here who own GT-2000s will understand what I mean. I have yet to hear ANYONE who has actually used one of these not say it was an upgrade in their system. Even the people who have far more expensive/higher end turntables give it serious respect, if they have heard it. Maybe they prefer their costly exotica, but they don't look down on the GT-2000, or on you for owning one. Several have agreed the GT-2000 is "as good as, just different from" some of the best TTs out there (stopping short of the ultra-high end Rockport Sirius IIIs and Caliburn Continuums, which best ANYTHING else ... but short of those, I can easily live with a GT-2000; it gets pretty far down the scale of diminishing returns, already).
But when you mention the TT to someone who has never heard one before, you get responses like a bland, flat or mildly dismissive, "Oh, yes, Yamaha. Um, that's one of those direct drives, isn't it?" You KNOW they haven't the faintest clue what they are missing, and nothing you say will likely change their attitudes, unless/until they hear one first-hand.
Most people fall in-between, with open minds but no experience of hearing the sound (or lack of it) of these TTs. Hopefully, through more threads like these, we'll encourage more people to seek out and hear these remarkable TTs for themselves. Then others can know what we know, or to put it more accurately, can hear what we hear.
Oh, and surfing is great, too! :yes:
Arkay
Lunatic Member
I would ask what he would have in mind, then smile smugly, saying nothing... unless there were a chance to demo the GT-2000 for him, which would be best. Usually, you can't really convince people when they have already convinced themselves of something else; you can only give them the opportunity to re-convince themselves of something different, by making it obvious to their own senses.
If you mean the "L" brand, I have, too. The first dozen or so times I heard one, I thought, "It's okay, but I don't understand what all the fuss is about." Then I heard one that blew me away, so to speak, and suddenly I "got it". That one had been gone over and set up by a real expert, and was probably as good as those TTs can get. Admittedly, it was VERY good. Of course, I've been blown further away by a number of other tables, (including the GT-2000), but trying to say that falls on deaf ears, when one is talking to a "cult member".
AMEN! I think you have hit something important on the head: There ARE better tables and worse, but all too often the potential of a given TT is overwhelmed by factors outside of the TT itself: the choice of cartridge and stylus, the tonearm (if interchangeable), the cables, what it sits on, the amplification chain and what connects that together, the speakers, the room environment... so many things play a role, that absolute comparisons are often problematic.
That said, some TTs seem to require by their nature a lot MORE finicky work to bring out their best performance, than others. Some belt drives are very susceptible to tiny changes in the tension put on the belt, and you can spend hours working on tiny adjustments of the distance between the motor and the platter, to get the best sound out of them. Not an issue with direct drives. Getting mechanical noise out of an idler wheel system requires similar painstaking and time-consuming work, and transplantation to a massive plinth. One "earns" the potential sound of such TTs.
At least with something like the GT-2000, a LOT of the "tweaky" stuff relating to the TT itself is just not necessary: in terms of the motor drive, it is basically 'plug-n-play'. The massive vibration-sinking plinth is already standard (although it can always be increased). A more massive and dense platter usually improves any TT. Few platters on any "production" TTs have ever come close to that of the GT-2000, so there is another upgrade already taken care of. Torque? How about well over a ton/cm^2. Speed Constancy, wow and flutter? Nearly immeasurable, and well below anything human ears could detect. It's hard to improve on the GT-2000, short of a super-exotic. Basically, it is already "tweaked to the max" as it came from the factory, and the parts work well together (synergistically), which I believe is why it sounds so good.
Of course, there are still the external tweaks, such as isolation platforms, etc... that apply to all TTs, and which will affect all TTs. This is where you get the improvements you're getting from the Magix levitators, and where "L" owners find improvement from using wall shelves, etc...
But I think the big Yammie has more of the stuff already taken care of at the factory --and that, extremely well-done!-- than most TTs ever made. Which is what makes it such a "special" performer.
When I first saw it, I was taken aback by its size. I didn't know anything about it at the time, but couldn't stop staring at the sheer over-the-top scale and appearance.
I wondered if it wasn't just an over-blown marketing gimmick, but it looked well-made, too, so I thought it might be good. Then I got to hear it, and was blown away by what I heard.
Later, after reading about some of the engineering behind it, I grew to appreciate it for what wasn't visible; the extreme engineering of it. Although I knew from the first sight that I wanted it, it was only after hearing it and learning more that I KNEW that I had to --I would!-- have one, one day.
I can show you (or anyone who visits Hong Kong) a dozen very large turntables that look better than the GT-2000, including several other 1980s Japan-market-only DD rarities in massive plinths. Some are veneered in exotic hardwoods that put most fine furniture to shame. Others have gorgeous golden platters and highly-polished tonearms that look like diamond jewelry settings. Stuff you'd expect to see in a Sultan's private listening chamber, just off the treasure room.
That's why I chose to get the GT-2000 as (for the foreseeable future) my "main system 'keeper'." I haven't found anything remotely close in price --including all the vintage AND new models usually discussed on AK-- that sounds as good, even after tweaking out, as this thing does, stock. I'm not sure that the other high-end DD TTs from 1980s Japan actually sound much better; they are just rarer and more beautiful, and so cost more. Perhaps some of them sound a little better (the GT-2000 tonearm has been bettered on some), but this is a case where the law of diminishing returns REALLY kicks in; it is more of a case of very subtle differences that you may or may not prefer. This TT is already probably "good enough" to be the "end of the road" for me, sonically.
The GT-2000 doesn't quite have that LOOK. Visually, it's no-nonsense "industrial" appearance could be much better, but sonically, it isn't embarrassed by those rare "dream" units. My ears tell me that sonically, it belongs somewhere in the same chamber, among them. And that is good enough for me, especially since it costs only a modest portion of the price that those "eye candy" versions command. I don't need to pay for the exotic finishes or the "bragging rights" of the ultra-rare, when I mostly want to listen to fine music in a dimly-lit room in the evenings, with my eyes closed much of the time, anyway.
Most of the time, when buying gear, I'm buying the best that I can afford at the time, well aware that if I won the lottery tomorrow, I'd upgrade to something better that is beyond my current budget. That is true of all of my amps, even though I have several I like. I've heard better, like big VTLs and perhaps Halcros, Gryphons, etc... but they all cost too much for me.
But a few pieces of gear I own, I don't feel that way about. Not everything is a budget-limited compromise. Yes, I'd like to have IRS Vs for speakers, but I'm quite content to listen to my RS IIs for the main system, and NS-1000s for nearfield, with any of several more forgiving speakers for poorer-quality recordings. These choices are not really limited by budget; I'd keep those speakers, even if I won a huge lottery tomorrow. Except for the IRS Vs and completing my DIY Heil AMT line arrays, I'd only buy some other speakers for variety, not for improvement per se. I know the RS IIs, properly driven and in my listening space, are "giant killers" that punch WAY, WAY above their budgetary "class". I've heard a number of speakers in the mid-to-high five figure range I wouldn't trade them for.
I feel the same way about the GT-2000. Yes, I'd love to have a Thorens Reference and a few other "spectacular" TTs; a Rockport Sirius III might be my ultimate choice, but like the IRS Vs, I might not find them for sale easily, and I might not feel justified in spending what they cost, even if I had the cash "to burn". Short of those, I'm perfectly happy to have the GT-2000 as my main TT. I don't feel as if I'm compromising or settling for less than I want. Looking at it, I don't crave a VPI or another Thorens or anything else, instead; I have a source that is good enough for me to be "satisfied" when I listen to music.
Other TTs will still come and go for fun and to satisfy my curiosity, but not for "upgrading". This is the first time I've felt that way with a TT. The PL-L1 is special to me, too, and will always occupy a special place in my heart and in my main system/collection, but in a different way. It is so rare I don't want to use it as my "daily player." I'm more of a museum caretaker with that one, and it is for "special moments." I rank it in the same general bracket as the GT-2000 and it is a "lifetime keeper", but it isn't my "go to" unit for routine listening.
In short (haha!), I "scored my personal bull's eye" with the GT-2000, I think, just as with the RS IIs that started me on this wild adventure of vintage audio. With the two transducers at the extreme ends of the audio chain 'taken care of' to a level of quality that I don't feel any need to further upgrade from, I can take my time and have fun with the rest of the process of tweaking to maximize what I can get out of the system as a whole. But there is no way I'm not going to be grinning ear-to-ear and feeling chills run down my spine for a long time to come, with these superb-sounding (to my tastes) pieces on either end. I believe these are the two most critical parts of any audio chain, although admittedly any chain is only as good as its weakest link. Still, the "hardest" part of my audio pursuit, I think, has been laid to rest.
Perhaps one day I'll re-plinth my GT-2000 (or a second one), in an even more massive, carefully-designed plinth with some magnificent exotic veneer from some near-extinct hardwood, inlaid with mastodon ivory and precious stones. Perhaps one day I'll put a gold-and-diamond-studded tonearm on it. [Not literally, but something better-looking and top-performing.] But even if I do, I don't think it will sound any better than it does, stock. And that's what I get a TT for, above all else: the sound.
Yes, I will still tweak things. Yes, I will try other things. Yes, I won't stop seeking better sound until I either go deaf, die, or get bored with it all. But it won't be because I need, want or expect to get better sound from anything else I will buy or make. No, it will just be for the sheer fun of it, for the learning experience. I'm playing with TTs purely for the fun of it; thanks to the GT-2000, I'm getting off the "upgrade road", at least for the foreseeable future, and I'm quite satisfied with that. It's a nice feeling!
In the months ahead, I plan to sell off all my boomboxes, at least half of my remaining speakers, most of my remaining cassette decks, most of my remaining turntables (except the very best "collectible" ones), at least half of my remaining receivers, etc... and focus on 'perfecting' (making good enough to satisfy me) my main system. With the addition of the GT-2000, I'm halfway there already, and that half is the hardest half, IMO. The rest is just FUN!
I know this has become another ridiculously l-o-n-g post, but I'll add one more thought: a few days ago, I got to hear a system including a Shindo pre-amp, huge McIntosh power amp, and superb high-efficiency Altec speakers. The kind of system that long-term audiophiles usually "end up with" after their ears have been trained "beyond golden". It was precise, clear, balanced ... in short, truly wonderful. But truth be told, either I'm not ready for it, or I know something they don't know yet. I'd grab the Shindo in a flash: it was truly special. But the rest of the system? Uh-uh. I like what I have better. That told me something, and was part of what prompted the above comments. I'm getting closer than I've ever been before to the "stopping point" in the main system. I still want to bring the digital end up to something much better, but the analog is getting very, very close now.
If you mean the "L" brand, I have, too. The first dozen or so times I heard one, I thought, "It's okay, but I don't understand what all the fuss is about." Then I heard one that blew me away, so to speak, and suddenly I "got it". That one had been gone over and set up by a real expert, and was probably as good as those TTs can get. Admittedly, it was VERY good. Of course, I've been blown further away by a number of other tables, (including the GT-2000), but trying to say that falls on deaf ears, when one is talking to a "cult member".
AMEN! I think you have hit something important on the head: There ARE better tables and worse, but all too often the potential of a given TT is overwhelmed by factors outside of the TT itself: the choice of cartridge and stylus, the tonearm (if interchangeable), the cables, what it sits on, the amplification chain and what connects that together, the speakers, the room environment... so many things play a role, that absolute comparisons are often problematic.
That said, some TTs seem to require by their nature a lot MORE finicky work to bring out their best performance, than others. Some belt drives are very susceptible to tiny changes in the tension put on the belt, and you can spend hours working on tiny adjustments of the distance between the motor and the platter, to get the best sound out of them. Not an issue with direct drives. Getting mechanical noise out of an idler wheel system requires similar painstaking and time-consuming work, and transplantation to a massive plinth. One "earns" the potential sound of such TTs.
At least with something like the GT-2000, a LOT of the "tweaky" stuff relating to the TT itself is just not necessary: in terms of the motor drive, it is basically 'plug-n-play'. The massive vibration-sinking plinth is already standard (although it can always be increased
). A more massive and dense platter usually improves any TT. Few platters on any "production" TTs have ever come close to that of the GT-2000, so there is another upgrade already taken care of. Torque? How about well over a ton/cm^2. Speed Constancy, wow and flutter? Nearly immeasurable, and well below anything human ears could detect. It's hard to improve on the GT-2000, short of a super-exotic. Basically, it is already "tweaked to the max" as it came from the factory, and the parts work well together (synergistically), which I believe is why it sounds so good.Of course, there are still the external tweaks, such as isolation platforms, etc... that apply to all TTs, and which will affect all TTs. This is where you get the improvements you're getting from the Magix levitators, and where "L" owners find improvement from using wall shelves, etc...
But I think the big Yammie has more of the stuff already taken care of at the factory --and that, extremely well-done!-- than most TTs ever made. Which is what makes it such a "special" performer.
When I first saw it, I was taken aback by its size. I didn't know anything about it at the time, but couldn't stop staring at the sheer over-the-top scale and appearance.
I wondered if it wasn't just an over-blown marketing gimmick, but it looked well-made, too, so I thought it might be good. Then I got to hear it, and was blown away by what I heard. Later, after reading about some of the engineering behind it, I grew to appreciate it for what wasn't visible; the extreme engineering of it. Although I knew from the first sight that I wanted it, it was only after hearing it and learning more that I KNEW that I had to --I would!-- have one, one day.
I can show you (or anyone who visits Hong Kong) a dozen very large turntables that look better than the GT-2000, including several other 1980s Japan-market-only DD rarities in massive plinths. Some are veneered in exotic hardwoods that put most fine furniture to shame. Others have gorgeous golden platters and highly-polished tonearms that look like diamond jewelry settings. Stuff you'd expect to see in a Sultan's private listening chamber, just off the treasure room.
That's why I chose to get the GT-2000 as (for the foreseeable future) my "main system 'keeper'." I haven't found anything remotely close in price --including all the vintage AND new models usually discussed on AK-- that sounds as good, even after tweaking out, as this thing does, stock. I'm not sure that the other high-end DD TTs from 1980s Japan actually sound much better; they are just rarer and more beautiful, and so cost more. Perhaps some of them sound a little better (the GT-2000 tonearm has been bettered on some), but this is a case where the law of diminishing returns REALLY kicks in; it is more of a case of very subtle differences that you may or may not prefer. This TT is already probably "good enough" to be the "end of the road" for me, sonically.
The GT-2000 doesn't quite have that LOOK. Visually, it's no-nonsense "industrial" appearance could be much better, but sonically, it isn't embarrassed by those rare "dream" units. My ears tell me that sonically, it belongs somewhere in the same chamber, among them. And that is good enough for me, especially since it costs only a modest portion of the price that those "eye candy" versions command. I don't need to pay for the exotic finishes or the "bragging rights" of the ultra-rare, when I mostly want to listen to fine music in a dimly-lit room in the evenings, with my eyes closed much of the time, anyway.
Most of the time, when buying gear, I'm buying the best that I can afford at the time, well aware that if I won the lottery tomorrow, I'd upgrade to something better that is beyond my current budget. That is true of all of my amps, even though I have several I like. I've heard better, like big VTLs and perhaps Halcros, Gryphons, etc... but they all cost too much for me.
But a few pieces of gear I own, I don't feel that way about. Not everything is a budget-limited compromise. Yes, I'd like to have IRS Vs for speakers, but I'm quite content to listen to my RS IIs for the main system, and NS-1000s for nearfield, with any of several more forgiving speakers for poorer-quality recordings. These choices are not really limited by budget; I'd keep those speakers, even if I won a huge lottery tomorrow. Except for the IRS Vs and completing my DIY Heil AMT line arrays, I'd only buy some other speakers for variety, not for improvement per se. I know the RS IIs, properly driven and in my listening space, are "giant killers" that punch WAY, WAY above their budgetary "class". I've heard a number of speakers in the mid-to-high five figure range I wouldn't trade them for.
I feel the same way about the GT-2000. Yes, I'd love to have a Thorens Reference and a few other "spectacular" TTs; a Rockport Sirius III might be my ultimate choice, but like the IRS Vs, I might not find them for sale easily, and I might not feel justified in spending what they cost, even if I had the cash "to burn". Short of those, I'm perfectly happy to have the GT-2000 as my main TT. I don't feel as if I'm compromising or settling for less than I want. Looking at it, I don't crave a VPI or another Thorens or anything else, instead; I have a source that is good enough for me to be "satisfied" when I listen to music.
Other TTs will still come and go for fun and to satisfy my curiosity, but not for "upgrading". This is the first time I've felt that way with a TT. The PL-L1 is special to me, too, and will always occupy a special place in my heart and in my main system/collection, but in a different way. It is so rare I don't want to use it as my "daily player." I'm more of a museum caretaker with that one, and it is for "special moments." I rank it in the same general bracket as the GT-2000 and it is a "lifetime keeper", but it isn't my "go to" unit for routine listening.
In short (haha!
), I "scored my personal bull's eye" with the GT-2000, I think, just as with the RS IIs that started me on this wild adventure of vintage audio. With the two transducers at the extreme ends of the audio chain 'taken care of' to a level of quality that I don't feel any need to further upgrade from, I can take my time and have fun with the rest of the process of tweaking to maximize what I can get out of the system as a whole. But there is no way I'm not going to be grinning ear-to-ear and feeling chills run down my spine for a long time to come, with these superb-sounding (to my tastes) pieces on either end. I believe these are the two most critical parts of any audio chain, although admittedly any chain is only as good as its weakest link. Still, the "hardest" part of my audio pursuit, I think, has been laid to rest.Perhaps one day I'll re-plinth my GT-2000 (or a second one
), in an even more massive, carefully-designed plinth with some magnificent exotic veneer from some near-extinct hardwood, inlaid with mastodon ivory and precious stones. Perhaps one day I'll put a gold-and-diamond-studded tonearm on it. [Not literally, but something better-looking and top-performing.] But even if I do, I don't think it will sound any better than it does, stock. And that's what I get a TT for, above all else: the sound. Yes, I will still tweak things. Yes, I will try other things. Yes, I won't stop seeking better sound until I either go deaf, die, or get bored with it all. But it won't be because I need, want or expect to get better sound from anything else I will buy or make. No, it will just be for the sheer fun of it, for the learning experience. I'm playing with TTs purely for the fun of it; thanks to the GT-2000, I'm getting off the "upgrade road", at least for the foreseeable future, and I'm quite satisfied with that. It's a nice feeling!
In the months ahead, I plan to sell off all my boomboxes, at least half of my remaining speakers, most of my remaining cassette decks, most of my remaining turntables (except the very best "collectible" ones), at least half of my remaining receivers, etc... and focus on 'perfecting' (making good enough to satisfy me) my main system. With the addition of the GT-2000, I'm halfway there already, and that half is the hardest half, IMO. The rest is just FUN!
I know this has become another ridiculously l-o-n-g post, but I'll add one more thought: a few days ago, I got to hear a system including a Shindo pre-amp, huge McIntosh power amp, and superb high-efficiency Altec speakers. The kind of system that long-term audiophiles usually "end up with" after their ears have been trained "beyond golden". It was precise, clear, balanced ... in short, truly wonderful. But truth be told, either I'm not ready for it, or I know something they don't know yet. I'd grab the Shindo in a flash: it was truly special. But the rest of the system? Uh-uh. I like what I have better. That told me something, and was part of what prompted the above comments. I'm getting closer than I've ever been before to the "stopping point" in the main system. I still want to bring the digital end up to something much better, but the analog is getting very, very close now.
the-real-mandak
Super Member
If I drink 2000 GT's and still is able to write anything, will it be ok if I do so?
Well If I may come with a suggestion, than open the groupe for all GT tt models. Since thay are of same fammily and share a fair amount of parts, so the experince/problems you all have will be semilar.
Note: The GT-1000 even it's a small TT it still weights 22kg before optional parts and was sold with a wide range of arms, including the YSA-2. Same thing with the GT-750, just every thing a bit smaller but still starts at 15,4 kg.
Well If I may come with a suggestion, than open the groupe for all GT tt models. Since thay are of same fammily and share a fair amount of parts, so the experince/problems you all have will be semilar.
Note: The GT-1000 even it's a small TT it still weights 22kg before optional parts and was sold with a wide range of arms, including the YSA-2. Same thing with the GT-750, just every thing a bit smaller but still starts at 15,4 kg.
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the-real-mandak
Super Member
They are all there, 750, 1000 and 2000. It's a good page for all Japanese Hi-Fi gear.
the-real-mandak
Super Member
There is another thing with the platter 1000 vs. 2000... about 2,8 kg 
The 750 and 1000 platter is 3kg and the 2000 is 5,8 kg. The Ø of the 2000 is also 14mm bigger than the 1000/750, this all shows in the inertia witch is 2 x bigger (1,2t vs. 600kg/cm).
But also notice the YGT-1 optional part for the GT-2000... it's a gun metal platter properly about 15kg.
The 750 and 1000 platter is 3kg and the 2000 is 5,8 kg. The Ø of the 2000 is also 14mm bigger than the 1000/750, this all shows in the inertia witch is 2 x bigger (1,2t vs. 600kg/cm).
But also notice the YGT-1 optional part for the GT-2000... it's a gun metal platter properly about 15kg.
Onvinyl
New Member
Oops,
I just realized recently I got an invitation for the GT-2000 club from Arkay. I was so busy playing the yamaha I had no need for the internet (haha).
In my area semingly no-one has ever heard the GT-2000, and those who did are usually impressed.
I have two questions re the tonearm (the 39er): it looks as if it might be possible to tune it to balanced audio mode. However, the right channel - seems to be tied to the ground, and between - and + returns there is a resistance of about 1k. Does anyone know where to fix this?
Also, is there a possibility of adjusting the lateral balance and/or the azimuth? My cart seems to be slightly dealigned in this respect.
Thanks and have fun!
Rüdiger
I just realized recently I got an invitation for the GT-2000 club from Arkay. I was so busy playing the yamaha I had no need for the internet (haha).
In my area semingly no-one has ever heard the GT-2000, and those who did are usually impressed.
I have two questions re the tonearm (the 39er): it looks as if it might be possible to tune it to balanced audio mode. However, the right channel - seems to be tied to the ground, and between - and + returns there is a resistance of about 1k. Does anyone know where to fix this?
Also, is there a possibility of adjusting the lateral balance and/or the azimuth? My cart seems to be slightly dealigned in this respect.
Thanks and have fun!
Rüdiger
Duffinator
Spin The Black Circle
Thanks. Our brand new digital camera was damaged earlier today so I can't post photos but member Bhamm was with me and he can verify that I have it. 
So this was fully legit and the seller was a real nice guy and threw in a new copy of the Doors L.A. Woman. His father-in-law was the original owner and brought the TT over from Japan at least five years ago and it's been sitting ever since. The seller was recently given the TT and decided to sell it. And fortunately for me I purchased it. :thmbsp:
The TT is very clean with only a couple of marks on it, nothing that I can't touch up. The arm and controls are clean and everything seems to work properly. The mat and platter look very nice. The cover has a 4" crack across the back and will need repair. It has the original headshell and a Yamaha MC 505 cart. I'm going to assume the MC means moving coil. Does anyone have any idea if this is a good cart? The stylus is straight and I can see the tip on the end.
A couple of questions, how do you remove the platter? And what is the correct overhang for mounting a cart? I have a pioneer alignment gauge so I can mark the correct distance on it and go to town. This looks like the standard mount for the headshell so I should be able to use my Denon 103R and Signet MK220E carts and try them all out on the TT.
Thanks for all the help and guidance you guys have given me.
So this was fully legit and the seller was a real nice guy and threw in a new copy of the Doors L.A. Woman. His father-in-law was the original owner and brought the TT over from Japan at least five years ago and it's been sitting ever since. The seller was recently given the TT and decided to sell it. And fortunately for me I purchased it. :thmbsp:
The TT is very clean with only a couple of marks on it, nothing that I can't touch up. The arm and controls are clean and everything seems to work properly. The mat and platter look very nice. The cover has a 4" crack across the back and will need repair. It has the original headshell and a Yamaha MC 505 cart. I'm going to assume the MC means moving coil. Does anyone have any idea if this is a good cart? The stylus is straight and I can see the tip on the end.
A couple of questions, how do you remove the platter? And what is the correct overhang for mounting a cart? I have a pioneer alignment gauge so I can mark the correct distance on it and go to town. This looks like the standard mount for the headshell so I should be able to use my Denon 103R and Signet MK220E carts and try them all out on the TT.
Thanks for all the help and guidance you guys have given me.
thedelihaus
Nocturnal transmissions
Congrats, Duff!
Duffinator
Spin The Black Circle
I'm not going to play it until I have proper step down transformer. I can get the platter up but the speed sensor cover is in the way. Does it pull off? I'll start a thread when I get some photos.
I found this on the cart but it's no help. Thanks for posting the photo.
I found this on the cart but it's no help. Thanks for posting the photo.
Duffinator
Spin The Black Circle
Thank you.
Onvinyl
New Member
Hi!
My YA-39 tonearm is away for a new cabling assembly, and for now I'm stuck with my Sony TTS4000 with a SAEC407/23. Could it possibly be that the SAEC outperforms the yamaha arm? I really can't say that my sound is worse than with the GT!
Do you have findings? If so, I have seen that there are adapter plates to fit the SAEC on the GT on some japanes sites (happen to lose the URL, though), does someone happen to know the dimensions so I can make my own SAEC base?
Rüdiger
My YA-39 tonearm is away for a new cabling assembly, and for now I'm stuck with my Sony TTS4000 with a SAEC407/23. Could it possibly be that the SAEC outperforms the yamaha arm? I really can't say that my sound is worse than with the GT!
Do you have findings? If so, I have seen that there are adapter plates to fit the SAEC on the GT on some japanes sites (happen to lose the URL, though), does someone happen to know the dimensions so I can make my own SAEC base?
Rüdiger
Onvinyl
New Member
Well, I'm trusting my ears, then. One day I'll plant the GT in a slate (or the like) cabinet and use it with the SAEC.
Only thing is, I'm a bit afraid to dismantle a properly working vintage hifi unit.
Infos re an adaptor plate (for a 407/23, not 407/GT) are welcome, anyway.
Rüdiger
Only thing is, I'm a bit afraid to dismantle a properly working vintage hifi unit.
Infos re an adaptor plate (for a 407/23, not 407/GT) are welcome, anyway.
Rüdiger
mrtim6
Active Member
My GT-2000
Hi everyone - I'm pleased to announce I recently bought a GT-2000 in sydney Australia
I would appreciate if anyone could give me some pointers in relation to a suitable cartridge $500 -$1500 range
I also have an off board power supply - not a Yamie one made by Audiovalvematic- any thoughts on this ps would be welcomed.
Any other general tips please.
System is:
GT-2000 with Shure NOS MM cart with off board power supply & step down transformer
PS Audio GCPH phono stage
Into Leben cs300xs with all NOS amperex tubes
Zu Audio Soul Superfly Speakers
Thank you
Hi everyone - I'm pleased to announce I recently bought a GT-2000 in sydney Australia
I would appreciate if anyone could give me some pointers in relation to a suitable cartridge $500 -$1500 range
I also have an off board power supply - not a Yamie one made by Audiovalvematic- any thoughts on this ps would be welcomed.
Any other general tips please.
System is:
GT-2000 with Shure NOS MM cart with off board power supply & step down transformer
PS Audio GCPH phono stage
Into Leben cs300xs with all NOS amperex tubes
Zu Audio Soul Superfly Speakers
Thank you
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mrtim6
Active Member
New GT2000
Thanks for the wellcome and Theophile thanks for your suggestions and comprehensive answer.
If I was to blow out my cart budget a bit are there any other suggestions?
I notice a certain well respected vendor on evil bay has shelter 501 around $980 Aussie dollars and has some nice looking zyx carts for much reduced prices. I have also been offered a Lyra Dellos ( bottom of this cartridge range ) for $1320 Aussie.
Still uncertain based on my system which cart would have good synergy. I know it's a bit difficult for others as we all have different systems rooms tastes in music.
Any more info would be welcomed.
I wonder if anyone has had the GT-2000 manuel translated - it's still available in PDF form from the yamaha website.
Thanks for the wellcome and Theophile thanks for your suggestions and comprehensive answer.
If I was to blow out my cart budget a bit are there any other suggestions?
I notice a certain well respected vendor on evil bay has shelter 501 around $980 Aussie dollars and has some nice looking zyx carts for much reduced prices. I have also been offered a Lyra Dellos ( bottom of this cartridge range ) for $1320 Aussie.
Still uncertain based on my system which cart would have good synergy. I know it's a bit difficult for others as we all have different systems rooms tastes in music.
Any more info would be welcomed.
I wonder if anyone has had the GT-2000 manuel translated - it's still available in PDF form from the yamaha website.
mrtim6
Active Member
GT-2000 on my newly acquired Yamaha GTR-B1 rack
thought you fine gentlemen might be interested in seeing the mighty fine GTR-B1 outside of Japan. This is one solid piece of rack the condition is excellent bar a couple of minor scratches, the shelf just above the power supply & step down transformer can be adjusted higher/lower
thought you fine gentlemen might be interested in seeing the mighty fine GTR-B1 outside of Japan. This is one solid piece of rack the condition is excellent bar a couple of minor scratches, the shelf just above the power supply & step down transformer can be adjusted higher/lowerAttachments
guiller
Toscaninichus Australis
Nice!
Sorry for being a bit late to this thread.
I got my GT-2000 through HiFiDo in late fall 2008, and bought a used Zyx Airy 3 through Audiogon shortly thereafter. But it wasn't until I acquired an appropriate phono stage for the Zyx in late May 2009 that I was able to listen to the GT-2000. I was staggered by the improvement over my previous vinyl rig.
The GT-2000 has been my daily driver since then, and it has performed nearly flawlessly until last year.
Last summer I put on a new LP (Paul Simon's Graceland) and when it reached the middle of the last track on side 1 (Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes) the darn thing started skipping. I adjusted VTA and tracking force but could not get it to play without skipping. I realigned the cartridge and got it perfectly dialed in. Threw on Graceland and cued up side 1 track 5 .... and it skipped as bad as before.
A few weeks later a friend of mine was visiting and I demonstrated the skipping on that track. He lifted the tonearm and slowly swung it to the run out track, then back. He did this a couple of times and announced "the tonearm is binding". I checked it myself and found that the tonearm moved smoothly until it reached a point near the end of the side when it encountered a slight resistance.
My friend soon had the tonearm dismantled and was examining where the pivot of the arm goes into the base. Inside the base there was a mold line with a wear mark on it, and a corresponding wear mark on the tonearm pivot that goes into the base. A bit of sanding and no more binding and no more skipping! Now the GT-2000 performs flawlessly.
I got my GT-2000 through HiFiDo in late fall 2008, and bought a used Zyx Airy 3 through Audiogon shortly thereafter. But it wasn't until I acquired an appropriate phono stage for the Zyx in late May 2009 that I was able to listen to the GT-2000. I was staggered by the improvement over my previous vinyl rig.
The GT-2000 has been my daily driver since then, and it has performed nearly flawlessly until last year.
Last summer I put on a new LP (Paul Simon's Graceland) and when it reached the middle of the last track on side 1 (Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes) the darn thing started skipping. I adjusted VTA and tracking force but could not get it to play without skipping. I realigned the cartridge and got it perfectly dialed in. Threw on Graceland and cued up side 1 track 5 .... and it skipped as bad as before.
A few weeks later a friend of mine was visiting and I demonstrated the skipping on that track. He lifted the tonearm and slowly swung it to the run out track, then back. He did this a couple of times and announced "the tonearm is binding". I checked it myself and found that the tonearm moved smoothly until it reached a point near the end of the side when it encountered a slight resistance.
My friend soon had the tonearm dismantled and was examining where the pivot of the arm goes into the base. Inside the base there was a mold line with a wear mark on it, and a corresponding wear mark on the tonearm pivot that goes into the base. A bit of sanding and no more binding and no more skipping! Now the GT-2000 performs flawlessly.
