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What is the most inovative rock LP of all time?

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Hmm... He sounded like Janice?

I think they had a similar vocal style. Listen to the vocals on the chorus of that song, especially. It's not a carbon copy, but I think there are similarities.

I remember reading a few places that Janis loved the Elevators while she was starting out and living in Texas, and that she was inspired by Roky's singing.
 
I think they had a similar vocal style. Listen to the vocals on the chorus of that song, especially. It's not a carbon copy, but I think there are similarities.

I remember reading a few places that Janis loved the Elevators while she was starting out and living in Texas, and that she was inspired by Roky's singing.

I appreciate it I'm definitely going to give it a listen.
 
I'm sure you mean Gene Vincent's first and greatest guitar player, Cliff Gallup.

A hero to rockabilly guitar players everywhere.

Including Jeff Beck! :thmbsp:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Legs_(album)

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Black Monk Time, & The Velvet Underground and Nico have already been mentioned, so I'll bring up The Second Annual Report of Throbbing Gristle. Then again, I could make the argument that TG were not really rock.

Some of y'all seem to be confusing innovative with influential. There was plenty of innovation outside of the mainstream.
 
The Moody Blues Days of Future Passed.

Glad to see this finally mentioned. I don't remember anything like it before, though creating solid themed albums and recording with a full orchestra was done countless times since.

I also applaud "This is the Moody Blues" as the best conceived GH record ever with the tracks arranged, mastered and remixed to make a complete record that could truly stand on its own and was far from a simple collection of hits thrown together for some easy bucks, though lord knows a plethora of those came in the 80s and 90s for the band.
 
I recall the Moody Blues stuff as intriguing and innovative tho' awful sounding. One of the few things that sounded better on a juke box or the radio than a decent system, deafness was an asset.
 
Switched on Bach.
Frank Zappa (you pick them)
The Seasons (Walter/Wendy Carlos)
Louie Jordan - the REAL inventor of rock n roll
 
Switched on Bach.
Frank Zappa (you pick them)
The Seasons (Walter/Wendy Carlos)
Louie Jordan - the REAL inventor of rock n roll

Got a bunch of Wendy Carlos's recordings, very innovative
but its simply NOT ROCK!

I still go with Zappa's Freak Out as innovative!
 
In your enthusiasm you ignore Blue Cheer, Iron Butterfly, Steppenwolf, Led Zeppelin and Mountain; all acts that did Metal before Black Sabbath was around. The Jimmy Hendrix Experience was very metallic live, you should've heard them do "Spanish Castle Magic", "Purple Haze" and "Little Miss Lover" live. The Who was also very metallic live then, they roared. One can also argue that Dave Allan and The Arrows were early Metal performers.

I know every band and every song you mentioned 'oh so too well!!' I was a teenager when their albums first came out.

'Just saw' Leslie West, about 15+ years ago :) ...he was fantastic. Blew everyone away, including me, in the first 2 1/2 minutes! It felt sooo goooood. He had people standing on their seats screaming at the top of their lungs. And that's saying a lot considering were all old farts now! haha. He came on stage by himself and just w-a-i-l-e-d guitar for 2.5 minutes. It was 'stunning'. Out of control. Then he just stopped, looked at the audience, and said, word for word: "Oh $hit, I'm just Fu*king around!". I'll never forget it. Then the audience just went bezerk again. lol. It was too much, it really was....it was cool. Really something else! Quite a 'moment'. :) And everyone else thought the same. Something else.
It was great to hear some 'real' guitar playing.

I mentioned Zeppelin. Zep WAS my band, and P. Floyd and Stones. But to me Zeppelin isn't 'Heavy Metal'. They are Heavy Blues Rock band. 'Lead' Zeppelin (Moonie).

Iron Butterfly and Steppenwolf - great bands but not super bands. But they were outstanding! Totally in sync with the times and what was happening. Steppinwolf's MFSL CD used price is through the roof. $$$

Another innovative great: Janis. And Velvet Underground...and Lou Reed.

Spanish Castle Magic: It was one of my favorite songs and regular daily plays on the juke box back in 1968 +/-. "That's Bob Dylan's mother over there." I played it religiously. Like Wooly Bully!! haha. Now Sam the Sham!!! Sam the Sham absorbed my brain. Mally told Hally... If I see it on a juke box, I play it 5 times! Sam the Shams 'Greatest Hits' is great.

Never heard of Dave Allan and The Arrows??? I've heard the name David Allen, I think, ... Never really listened to Blue Cheer. Who's Blue Cheer? (I've heard the name before, decades ago. Not being negative: I don't really care who they are. If I would of liked them...I would of bought their LP. Same with David Allen, or maybe I'm thinking about David Allen Coe?)

Innovative? Arlo Guthrie: Alices Resturaunt! Wonderful LP. Absolutely a 'sign of the times'.

Yeah, I'm old.

Elvis? He did rock it. He is 'The King'. But I never really got into him. Not at all actually. Too Chicago for me. I'm not into the greased hair thing. But I did buy the MFSL CD for kicks and giggles. Played it once. I'm going to give it to my cousin, she loves Elvis.

Saw the Kingsman playing Louie Louie in Zaire Department Store in the record department. They were just kids like me! Well, older kids. They sang 6 songs to promote their LP and Louie Louie that was playing on the radio endlessly. So cool.

Ditto on the Moody Blues. Another band that really hit the 'sign of the times'. I have their MFSL CDs. They were great!

That's my take on it anyway. :)

And then there's Santana!

Jefferson Airplane: Super Innovative for San Francisco. I was there at the time.
 
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I know every band and every song you mentioned 'oh so well!!' I was a kid and young adult when their albums first came out. Just saw Leslie West about 10 years ago...he was fantastic. Blew everyone away. In the first 2 1/2 minutes. Had people standing on their seats. And that's saying a lot considering were all old farts now! haha.

I mentioned Zeppelin. Zep WAS my band, and P. Floyd and Stones. But to me Zeppelin isn't 'Heavy Metal'. They are Heavy Blues Rock. Lead Zeppelin. Iron Butterfly and Steppenwolf - great bands but not super bands. But they were great! Totally in sync with the times and what was happening.

Spanish Castle Magic: It was one of my favorite songs and regular plays on the juke box back in 1968. +/- I played it religiously. Like Wooly Bully!! haha. Now Sam the Sham!!!

Never heard of Dave Allan and The Arrows??? I've heard the name David Allen, I think, ... Never really listened to Blue Cheer. Who's Blue Cheer? (I've heard the name before, decades ago. Not being negative: I don't really care who they are. If I would of liked them...I would of bought their LP. Same with David Allen.)

I think if you heard Blue Cheer, you'd see why they could be considered heavy metal. They're way closer to metal/Sabbath in terms of heaviness than any of those other bands are. As someone else mentioned, they're not dark like Sabbath, though. But they're just as heavy as Sabbath. If you have Spotify, stream their first album, Vincebus Eruptum, which came out in 1968.
 
I know every band and every song you mentioned 'oh so well!!' I was a kid and young adult when their albums first came out. Just saw Leslie West about 10 years ago...he was fantastic. Blew everyone away. In the first 2 1/2 minutes. Had people standing on their seats. And that's saying a lot considering were all old farts now! haha.

I mentioned Zeppelin. Zep WAS my band, and P. Floyd and Stones. But to me Zeppelin isn't 'Heavy Metal'. They are Heavy Blues Rock. Lead Zeppelin. Iron Butterfly and Steppenwolf - great bands but not super bands. But they were great! Totally in sync with the times and what was happening.

Spanish Castle Magic: It was one of my favorite songs and regular plays on the juke box back in 1968. +/- I played it religiously. Like Wooly Bully!! haha. Now Sam the Sham!!!

Never heard of Dave Allan and The Arrows??? I've heard the name David Allen, I think, ... Never really listened to Blue Cheer. Who's Blue Cheer? (I've heard the name before, decades ago. Not being negative: I don't really care who they are. If I would of liked them...I would of bought their LP. Same with David Allen.)

Actually, here you go, someone put the entire album up on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FafdwvD6qw0
 
Kraftwerk, D.O.A. By bloodrock, Frankenstein(headphones on), Utopia, Budgie...
This is fun.
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I'd have to think Sgt. Peppers is the one if not damn close.

As a fan, I also think that "Van Halen" was like nothing done before and sparked a change in the way rock sounded (though I guess similar things could be said for Nirvana's 1st album and the shift toward grunge...)

Then again, maybe the most innovative rock album would be the FIRST rock album made?
I'd say being the first at anything that has gone on for 50+ years is pretty innovative...
 
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though I guess similar things could be said for Nirvana's 1st album and the shift toward grunge...

As much as I love Nirvana's first album, it was not anything new. Flipper, Melvins, and Black Flag had been doing that style for five or six years before Bleach came out. Even Soundgarden was around before Nirvana.
 
I think if you heard Blue Cheer, you'd see why they could be considered heavy metal. They're way closer to metal/Sabbath in terms of heaviness than any of those other bands are. As someone else mentioned, they're not dark like Sabbath, though. But they're just as heavy as Sabbath. If you have Spotify, stream their first album, Vincebus Eruptum, which came out in 1968.

I'll check it out. :)

Actually, here you go, someone put the entire album up on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FafdwvD6qw0

Excellent! Thanks steelglam.

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Oh yeah! I remember them now. "there ain't no cure for the summertime blues". :)
I really never considered them 'heavy'. Advanced for the time. It's really good. Never bought an album. Just listened to it on the radio. Really good band.

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Van Halen! Their first 4 albums were super. All the new bands today...they ain't no Van Halens. :)


King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King:
Outrageous. I've got 2 'collectors type' LPs (German and Japanese pressings) and the gold CD (Unopened/sealed). I'm not going to open it. It's just for 'looks'. And I got it! :) Finally!!
I've 'Always' wanted 'that' specific 24K gold CD... and then there it was on eBay, no one was really bidding, and I got it for like $22. Dirt Cheap. I just keep it on top of my CD cabinets. It's just for NOS ITCOTCK looks. I'm not into displaying albums...but THAT album is on display in a Teak CD holder! I just play the records. :) That album is in my top 10 favorite of all time. Absolutely no doubt about it. It's mesmorizing for me. Heard it a zillion times and I could play it right now and it would sound like the 'first time'. * Simply Outstanding. * And then came ELP. I love ELP. Saw them in concert in Houston in 1974, my nose was on the stage, outrageous concert. Best concert I've ever seen. And that's saying a lot because I frequented the Filmore West and Winterland in 1970 like 2x a week. I can't even remember 70% of the bands I'd seen then. I wonder why??? It was weird...the bands were kind of like backround music for the ' party '. :) It was fun.

The thing is: >>> during the late 60s/early 70s...'ALL' THE BANDS were the Most Innovative. They were all INVENTING it. What a time it was in music. It can Never be Duplicated. I don't think so, I don't see how it could possibly be duplicated. It was a 'moment' in time. (like the Delta Blues in 1925-1935) <<<
(OK, it will happen again but not for many many decades to come. It was a ' Movement ' - artistically speaking. And all 'Movements' need a 'Major Happening' .)

A lot of smiley faces in this post! :)
 
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