Hurricane Helene
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We all do have a responsibility, of engaging our brains, and separating the nonsense from the realistic. Just because it's in print, doesn't mean it's actually been researched properly, or that all factors have been covered.
Regards,
Gordon.
BTW- I haven't just read one article. I've been basically watching and reading about this, several hours a day, from last Wednesday until now. And have been in contact with people in various affected areas too. Thankfully, none of them were involved in life-threatening situations themselves- but all had heard or knew about people that were in desperate circumstances. No one is satisfied with the current situation- but the people I've talked to, understand the overwhelming, extraordinary extent of the damage. There's only so much that can be done, when EVERYTHING in an area is basically destroyed.
I don't claim to know everything about this- that's impossible- but I have made a point, to read and listen to quite a variety of news sources. And a consensus seems to be emerging- that no one realistically expected this degree of damage, especially in North Carolina. This has literally NOT happened before, in recorded history there, AFAIK. Maybe we should have suspected something like this could happen, due to the implications described by climate change theory and such- but without concrete data, it's hard to predict the future in terms of what will happen when...
Regards,
Gordon.
I don't claim to know everything about this- that's impossible- but I have made a point, to read and listen to quite a variety of news sources. And a consensus seems to be emerging- that no one realistically expected this degree of damage, especially in North Carolina. This has literally NOT happened before, in recorded history there, AFAIK. Maybe we should have suspected something like this could happen, due to the implications described by climate change theory and such- but without concrete data, it's hard to predict the future in terms of what will happen when...
Regards,
Gordon.
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And if one storm isn't enough- the possibility of ANOTHER storm forming, in exactly the same area, is becoming a worrisome probability. Disaster management has not only now to deal with the PRESENT disaster- but also are needing to plan for the contingency of ANOTHER disaster- that may well put the existing emergency response crews, in the situation of becoming victims of the NEXT storm, themselves. That makes for a really difficult conundrum, potentially... do you send in everything now, or do you hold at least some of them in reserve, in case of another round of damage?
Regards
Gordon.
Regards
Gordon.
Apparently, Lumberton- which is pretty far east in North Carolina- is nominally OK, as of now. The only current news I could find about them in relation to the current storm, was that rescue crews FROM Lumberton were being dispatched to western North Carolina, to help there. That would ostensibly mean that there is no substantial disaster-related emergency IN Lumberton at this time.
Robeson, Scotland Co. first responders head to western NC
Lumberton Fire, Laurinburg Fire, Fairmont police and Lumberton rescue, teams help western NC neighbors impacted by Helene (Department Images)
wpde.com
Regards,
Gordon.
Pio1980
AK Member
Certainly not here, regardless of what has been happening with it elsewhere. It's a serious issue that transcends making points falsely denigrating the relief efforts.
jayvis
Addicted Member
Praying for all who are directly affected by this. Catastrophic weather events have happened throughout the world in recorded history. This one happened to affect a large portion of our country, and it'll take a long time to recover. Local, state and federal agencies all need to update and upgrade their response planning for worse case scenarios like this. And the U.S. military should also be involved and available to help.
Pio1980
AK Member
Definitely an "all hands on deck" situation, and the response is happening.
Govany
Super Member
I'm near Burnsville, it's a disaster around any rivers or creeks here, but if your buddy is up on a mountain he and his mother are probably OK, internet and cell service has been down around here but is starting to make a comeback
Bill Ferris
Lunatic Member
There is a good sized, depending on the water flow through rate, creek that runs through their property, but I believe it is a good bit below their house`s and unattached garage`s elevation from recalling e-mail pictures he has sent me many yrs. ago.
They have a LP fueled 13 kw or less, or so installed Generac genset, and I don`t remember how much LP capacity they have for it, as his mother originally bought it to deal with the sometime super winter storms that knock out the area`s grid for days.
But he`s a pretty sharp guy and can be quite resourceful having lived in South Miami exposed to hurricanes for his whole 50 yrs. of life until he and his mother moved to Burnsville around 20 + yrs. ago !
Bill Ferris
Lunatic Member
Cold Spring Rd. is where their house is located, FWIW !
And from what I remember they have a very long unpaved driveway that has an tendency to washout during heavy spring rainfall sometimes.
Govany
Super Member
He sounds like the type to be prepared, they probably eating popcorn & watching TV..it's people who don't have food & water that are in trouble..
I'll see what I can hear about the conditions on Cold Spring Rd..
Bill Ferris
Lunatic Member
Yeah, my friend, was, or still is?, a pretty big guy (like football line blocker) sized, and when he would sometimes stop by my electronic repair shop in 1981 to visit and he could and did sometimes readily just for fun snatch my ~ 140lb body up and placing his big hands on my hip and shoulder bench press me towards the shop`s ceiling several times in a row !
A real gentle giant German friend from 1975 who liked to party hardy (self acclaimed "Heavy Hitter" from Miami FL.!)
I hope his very elderly mother and my friend are safe and sound and kicking back with ample supplies of food, and able to get water from their well, or run through a filter(s) from the creek.
Thank you very much, for offering about finding out anything you can about the Cold Creek Rd. area`s condition situation, Govany, Sir., as that`s very kind of you, and appreciated very much by me.
I have friends and family, mostly in Rutherford County (Chimney Rock/Lake Lure/HIckory) and have been in communication with them.The lack of power, water (potable), internet and cell service is devastating. I grew up about 20+ mile from Lake Lure.
Helene in the mountains is a once in a thousand year occurrence. However there was a comparable event in 1916. The Great Flood of 1916 occurred in July when remnants of one Cat 3 storm from the Gulf coast and a Cat 2 storm from the East coast hit the mountains. The rains continued for 10 days straight, including 22" in one 24 hour period in some areas. Almost all the dams failed, French Broad River crested at 21', the nearby Swannanoa River was a mile wide, and an estimated 80 people died.
Helene in the mountains is a once in a thousand year occurrence. However there was a comparable event in 1916. The Great Flood of 1916 occurred in July when remnants of one Cat 3 storm from the Gulf coast and a Cat 2 storm from the East coast hit the mountains. The rains continued for 10 days straight, including 22" in one 24 hour period in some areas. Almost all the dams failed, French Broad River crested at 21', the nearby Swannanoa River was a mile wide, and an estimated 80 people died.
Pio1980
AK Member
Asheville animal shelter director on devastation to the city, evacuation of people and animals
The shelter's 150 dogs and cats were evacuated ahead of the storm, but the entire campus was destroyed.
www.wbur.org
Pio1980
AK Member
Spruce Pine just got hit by Helene. The fallout on the tech industry could be huge https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s...ne-quartz-microchips-solar-panels-spruce-pine
