Yamaha GT-2000 Turntable Social Group

[brad6285]

Do we have to oil our gt2000l tt and if im right theres an oil dumping mechanism on the tonearm but where is it do you have to fill it with oil. Ive never oil my tt in 3 yrs. if it needs to be done i want to do it. Thanx brad

 

[0face1]

I was casually discussing my intentions of getting a GT-2000 with an online friend the other day. It seemed his main cause for concern that he brought up was an IC issue or them being problematic/faulty. I told him I could not recall a post where this "IC Issue" was regularly reported with this TT. I tried searching and the only post I found was in audiogon, by a member there, and I do not think he even owned a GT-2000. Unless in a Japanese forum somewhere, are there any other "reports" of this alleged "IC issue"?

Btw, I am electronics tech with a couple of decades of experience in many facets of electronics/communications/techniology. In my experience, minus a catastrophic failure/fire/short, I can only recall maybe one or two instances where an IC has failed.


Also, IF there is a IC failure, are they're replacements/substitutions for such IC's?

I have been researching and gravitating towards the GT 2000 for about a couple of years now after stumbling onto a Yamaha YP-D71 in great shape. I brought myself up to speed on the model of this TT, alignment, calibration and all those other things when dealing with TT's. That lead me to stumbled briefly onto the TVK which showed one of current TT's ( also own a YP-D6 and a PX3) and I saw the GT 2000. Which has lead me to start saving and going to let go of a few of my tables. I'll probably keep the D71 or the PX 3 as a backup.

Thanks for any information/assurances, etc.... That y'all might be able to provide, I 've enjoyed the reading about this table!

 

[ateal]

Has anyone seen that luscious YSA 2 Tonearm on yahoo Japan. Comes with original packing materials, box, cables and two headshells. Very very nice. The only problem is the added costs the third party broker would add.

 

[ateal]

Plus the fact that US customs would probably pull it out of the box to make sure it's not a gun and then carelessly throw it back in the box with no regard for the value of it and leave the new owner with no recourse.

This happened to someone I know and it was only being shipped from Canada.

 

[808_state]

Has anyone seen that luscious YSA 2 Tonearm on yahoo Japan. Comes with original packing materials, box, cables and two headshells. Very very nice. The only problem is the added costs the third party broker would add.

There's 2 YSA-2's and a YSA-1. They tend to appear in groups. Customs really wouldn't care (I've got 2 YSA-1's without issue) but the prices are starting out steep. If you watch regularly the sellers are trying to continually boost the prices for the accessories but the table prices stay about the same (sort of flooded at the moment). They typically offer the very same tables and accessories for much higher prices on the bay because they assume no-one outside Japan checks Yahoo jp auction and then get bad feedback for poorly timed dual posted items and subsequently cancelled sales. But it's just business...blah blah woof woof...I get it.

Incidentally the only issue I've encountered with the GT-2000 involves the glue that holds a plate/ring to underside of the top part of the motor assembly. I think the glue loses its stickiness and the ring sags down. I'll post pictures when I get a chance. It's an easy fix. If you hear a slight metallic grinding noise when the platter spins then your glue has gone bad.

 

[0face1]

I'm very familiar with that particular Audiogon thread. Although there are IC issues with the Japan Victor TT101, that was not what caused the problem which gave that thread its impetus. Eventually after trying multiple techs, the owner of the 101 found that it was micro-fractures in the solder joints that were causing the problems. A thorough tech went right through his 101 and re-soldered every joint. That fixed the problem. As to the GT 2000, I have never heard of any IC problem with it. The bearing doesn't appear to need re-lubricating. The bearing was designed to bear the load of the 38 pound optional gunmetal platter, therefore it is minimally loaded by the standard 13 pound platter.

There have arisen some issues with some not all of the arms which cause the powder-coated finish to crack around the arm's bearings. There seems to be occasionally 'sticking' problems with the arms where they 'bind' at one or more points as they traverse the groove from edge to label. It isn't common but I experienced it with my YSA-1. I fixed it myself by alternately pulling up vertically on the arm tube(at the bearing housing) whilst moving the arm back and forth horizontally multiple times, and alternating with pushing the arm down at the bearing housing whilst moving the arm back and forth horizontally. The problem with the arm sticking never came back.

Other than the arm(s) problems there doesn't seem to have arisen any other problems as long as the turntable is used with a 100 volt AC source. In other words, if where you live(which isn't clear) doesn't have 100 volt mains power, the advice would be to use a voltage matching step-down transformer to step down the local mains power voltage to match the turntable's requirement of the Japanese voltage of 100 volts AC.

Most of us here at AK who have bought a GT 2000 have purchased ours at HiFiDo and recommend others to do the same. The reason being that HiFiDo do an exemplary job of packing anything they sell. Of course this is countered by the freight companies who seem to be hell bent on destroying anything they carry, but short of flying to Japan and personally carrying the turntable back to your part of the world to avoid problems, the HiFiDo crew give one the best chance of your precious cargo arriving in one piece. Fingers crossed.

So far there are over twenty AK members who have bought GT 2000s and not one yet has been anything but happy with the effort to do so. Keep us informed of your ongoing adventure into the land of the rising sun's trading sector.

Whew, Thanks Theo......! I searched and searched relentlessly throughout the net on any other information on the alleged IC issue and came up blank. Which is a good thing.

Unless hifido does it, I would probably recap my future unit just to be safe myself. I have quite a few years in electronics and the troubleshooting and repairing of electronics. I usually do it to most units I get, given the fact that I am not comfortable with having old components in electronics after a certain period of decades, with an unknown background, wait to malfunction. But I also just don't didiling around just for the sake of it either.

From what I have read, hifido has seem to be the place to get one of these. I have already registered for their alerts and they have a 2000L, but i am, not ready to purchase yet. Probably will get myself an early Christmas present soon though!

I am well aware of the ( my ) need to step down the voltage , giving the fact of me living in the states. I have searched and save the links where some people have built their own outboard power supply.

Thanks again for the assurance Theo!

 

[808_state]

GT-2000 boat anchor alert:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u158970373

 

[808_state]

I looked directly at Japan Yahoo Auctions turntable section just now and didn't see the listing

The link is still good...it sounds strange but depending on how you search GT 2000 with or without a hyphen, capitalisation etc. can change the results.

 

[808_state]

Found it in the subsection under the turntable heading known as Other :

http://yahoo.aleado.com/lot?auctionID=u158970373

Aleado is a sort of intermediary search, that's why I always go for the straight Japanese search. Google translate is usually good enough for getting the gist of condition.

 

[mrtim6]

$4344 I think I will pass...

Theo I remember us chatting about this anchor block previously and you made some interesting points about the anchor limitations regarding the turntable's stability as compared with your centre of gravity experiments.

I purchased one of the YS-2 tonearms for sale on Yahoo Japan via Buyee. Well it turned up broken and cracked as the packaging was an absolute disgrace. Fortunately they refunded me the cost & postage. Hifido is the way to go when it comes to packaging of equipment their packaging is fantastic.

 

[mrtim6]

Thanks Theo I'm in (not so) sunny UK at the moment- I'll catch-up with you when I get back.

I'm absolutely sure there will be others on this fine forum interested in your isolation experiments. Outside of Japan you are one of a small number of English speaking people who have an excellent understanding of the GT-2000.

 

[ateal]

$4344 I think I will pass...

Theo I remember us chatting about this anchor block previously and you made some interesting points about the anchor limitations regarding the turntable's stability as compared with your centre of gravity experiments.

I purchased one of the YS-2 tonearms for sale on Yahoo Japan via Buyee. Well it turned up broken and cracked as the packaging was an absolute disgrace. Fortunately they refunded me the cost & postage. Hifido is the way to go when it comes to packaging of equipment their packaging is fantastic.

Wow, that's terrible news. I hate it when that happens. I saw that and nearly bought it myself but I was worried about US Customs mishandling it. Did you go for the one in the original box or the other one.

 

[mrtim6]

Hi ateal,

I purchased the one without the original box.

As mentioned whoever packed the tonearm had zero understanding of what they were handling.

I might consider a YSA-1 in the future although I still think the YSA-39 I think is a decent tonearm.

 

[mrtim6]

Agreed!

I was considering a different tonearm to see if there were any advantages with the YSA-2 over the YA-39.

 

[ateal]

Hi ateal,

I purchased the one without the original box.

As mentioned whoever packed the tonearm had zero understanding of what they were handling.

I might consider a YSA-1 in the future although I still think the YSA-39 I think is a decent tonearm.

I have come to love the YSA-39 tonearm as it can take my Ortofon SPU Classic cartridge which is an absolute amazing cart and has great synergy with the GT 2000.

 

[808_state]

$4344 I think I will pass...

Theo I remember us chatting about this anchor block previously and you made some interesting points about the anchor limitations regarding the turntable's stability as compared with your centre of gravity experiments.

I purchased one of the YS-2 tonearms for sale on Yahoo Japan via Buyee. Well it turned up broken and cracked as the packaging was an absolute disgrace. Fortunately they refunded me the cost & postage. Hifido is the way to go when it comes to packaging of equipment their packaging is fantastic.

Well good or bad I like to keep the discussion going about the GT's...

Man, so sorry to hear about the YSA-2! Usually Japanese sellers are much better than that. Did Buyee possibly repack it?

Incidentally hifido put up a YGT-1 today. Looks nice and comes with a mat but of course already on hold:

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KW/G/P/A/E/0-10/S/C17-12231-62792-00/

 

[mrtim6]

808 State i have no idea if the tonearm was repackaged.

The mat included with the YGT-1 looks exactly like the standard rubber one i received when I purchased my GT-2000.

 

[808_state]

808 State i have no idea if the tonearm was repackaged.

The mat included with the YGT-1 looks exactly like the standard rubber one i received when I purchased my GT-2000.

I've only purchased a couple of items through Buyee. I was under the impression that they would inspect the goods before sending them to you and let you know about general damage. Unbelievable.

Many tables on both hifido and Yahoo jp auction only ship with a generic butyl rubber mat so an authentic GT mat (that fits the entire platter) could be a nice bonus for someone without one, certainly at the price of the YGT-1.

 

[Mark B]

I'm pretty certain that most of the Japanese auction agents are simply a proxy buyer, mailing address and freight forwarder. They take no responsibility for the seller's packing nor the condition of the goods forwarded. That is my understanding. Hence, if you want a GT 2000 to arrive in one piece, it has to be HiFiDo.

I agree. My experience buying from Yahoo! Japan through Buyee is that it's a crap shoot when it comes to the quality of packing, and that's with paying extra for protective packaging. Turntables are not something I would take that risk with. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a GT-2000 from HiFiDo.

 

[808_state]

it has to be HiFiDo.

Agreed